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Police will assume abduction - PJ wants to reopen the Madeleine McCann case

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Post by Pedro Silva on Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:30 am

My friends, this was taken from Correio da Manhã newspaper:

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/pj-quer-reabrir-caso-maddie

Police will assume abduction

PJ wants to reopen the Madeleine McCann case

Portuguese authorities investigate new lead that should lead to the reopening of the case of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

The Portuguese authorities ponder reopen the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, following the analysis by PJ of Oporto over the past two years.

The investigation should be under supervison by the PJ in Faro and consist, for now, in the examination of other witnesses. The CDM then know that the thesis will be the abduction and may be common to the steps that were requested by the British.


Last week the case met new developments, especially with the release of a portrait robot of the prime suspect and that new lead, which everything points should lead to the reopening of the process to know what happened to Madeleineon the night of May 3, 2007, in Praia da Luz.

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Post by rosemary on Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:16 pm

Excellent news!

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Post by Pedro Silva on Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:29 pm

Rosemary, your words are mine.

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Post by Pedro Silva on Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:30 pm

My friends, here it is the translation from:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvzibhfcaFg

h: good afternoon, welcome to the news CM, I start with the alert CM, the Madeleine McCann case may be re-opened by PJ, it is an aler CM which we mention it from now, in this studio is my guest Eduardo Dâmaso, director of the Correio da Manhã newspaper

host (h): Eduardo, good afternoon.

Eduardo (E): good afternoon.

h: updates about the Madeleine McCann case?

E: well, essentially, what we know is that PJ pretend to re-open the case of Madeleine McCann, and also have requested it to the Public Ministry, who is the one who have the formal authority to re-open it, essentially, I think that this will result from the fact after a work of two years in which the PJ made, through a team constituted in Oporto, the directory of Oporto and concluded the need of going deeper about a clue which pinpoints the abduction thesis, this is in a fact a development to be happening, an extraordinary development

h: amazing,

h: Eduardo, but, could it be related with these news, can you find any relationabout the desire of PJ to re-open it, when a few days ago we heard about the special programme of BBC and the British police?

E: according the investigation conducted by Operation Grange, and according to what we think we know, the eventual re-opening of the process is not related with the British investigation, it results from a, it is neither related with British police nor with the facts connected with diligencies made by the couple with their organized structure about the issue of the search for the child, this update is mainly related with the work of analysis which was made by a team of 5 or 6 persons, conducted by a female inspector of Oporto in the last two years in which were tested a series of diligencies made at the time and analyzed all the material gathered and it was ver y abundant whether in a scenery whether in other scenery, whether in the scenery of having an accident in the apartment and the child died due to it, or whether in the scenery of abduction, so, in the distance, with the biggest distance about these facts, the investigation tem, specially not being connected with the first investigation, looked surely with a different look to the material of the time and concluded that is necessary to go deep about a clue related with abduction, the issue of abduction was mentioned initially in the beginning of the investigation, specially due to a statement of one of persons who were in the group of the British tourists, also friends of the couple who told that she saw a man who she identified through a e-fit with a child, that was initially dismissed, and the credibility of it was much attacked, because there was the reverse about the physical aspects, about the time and the place, I think that is not related this update with that fact, there is also another scenery, which was now mentioned by British police which is also a scenery investigated at the time which is the thesis also about another man in the same situation whit different hours heading for the sea, I remember that at the time there was a witness from a Irish family that crossed with that man which later identified that person with the father of the child, now with the British investigation, that thesis comes again but with a e-fit constructed in the base of someone with physical similarities to Gerry McCann but not being Gerry McCann obviously, so, this is the British clue , I presume that this update in the component of the PT investigation is not related with neither with the first or the second situation.

h: you mentioned that this work of investigation that is being pursued by PJ for two years, this type of case in many times are intervals of time which can help about the solving of the case, I ask this because the public opinion in PT have the idea according the work conducted here that is was a shelved case.

E: yes, according mainly with the evolution of the first investigation, parents has arguidos, homicide by negligence, which means that PJ understood that the evidences that pointed to a accident inside the apartment and the child died, and the process of occultation of a corpse, that hypothesis was the one who conducted the event of parents has arguidos, it was not a hypothesis requested by the Public Ministry at the time, which later archived the process, then also had a first sign about that investigation when amaral left the process, it was nominated a new team with Paulo Rebelo which arrived at Praia da Luz, which analyzed the material, gathered finger prints, analyzed documents, CCTV footage, tapes of video-surveillance etc, and concluded, increased the thesis of closing the case, abandoning the thesis of homicide by negligence. The re-opening of the case now it would not limit, it might, does not have the logic of limitation of the process, it may repeat the hypothesis of investigating the closed thesis, none of it is out, but the truth is that this re-opening is determined by evidences / indications that an abduction happened, so, it is not predictable that the thesis of homicide comes again repeated, now in that perspective you mentioned, for the PT public opinion that was a closed case in that perspective, but the thesis of abduction was always a thesis fed, never dismissed by the parents, which made an enormous campaign, enormous media pressure, understandable in the good sense, to look for a kidnapper, dozens, hundreds of sightings of the child in the world, that in some way in my comic point of view made comic the search that should have been objective, rational, based on ways that should not depended due to the private fund created by the family, but due to the public ways of one of the countries or even due to both countries involved, but in the concrete case of being investigated, archived here, it would be the UK due to the nationality of the couple, truly I feel that it is what is happening, in England there was a wake up of the case due to the pressure of the family also political pressure, political option of UK Prime-Minister, which determined a re-opening of the case in England in the perspective of the abduction which forced shall we say a police force namely the British police to organize in the purpose of pursuing the clue of abduction, that in a way is what we are watching, whether UK dimension, which agrees deeply with the family about the abduction, in PT with this re-opening based also in an idea of abduction, I remember that in PT, one of the questions at the time in 2007, 2008, about the possibility of abduction, many of that work was made at that time it is related with the fact of Algarve being considered by police a zone of risk, an attractive area for some international p.a.e.dophile net, at the time was investigated the presence of p.a.e.d.o.philes, 20 with criminal record for sexual crimes, that work was made by the PT investigation, now probably due to the way the process rapidly moved to the homicide, that work was not done so deeply has it should, which is the work during two years and now it is the time to go deeply with another way about the new updates.

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Post by Pedro Silva on Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:43 pm

My friends, this was taken from Sky News:

http://news.sky.com/story/1158880/madeleine-mccann-portugal-cops-may-open-case


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Post by Pedro Silva on Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:44 pm

My friends, this was taken from The Portugal News newspaper:

http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/portuguese-police-prepare-to-re-open-madeleine-case-reports/29711

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Post by Pedro Silva on Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:44 pm

My friends, this was taken from Correio da Manhã newspaper:

http://imgs.cmjornal.xl.pt/2013-10/2013-10-24004012_ca967162-b341-4feb-88dd-fecb0766bf67$$738D42D9-134C-4FBE-A85A-DA00E83FDC20$$6F387665-CB5C-4C0E-8DBC-B950BD0416A8$$imagem_capa$$pt$$1.jpg

foreign paedophiles being targeted by PJ.

PJ wants to re-open the case.

abduction clue recognized by the Oporto team that analyzes more than a year the investigation.

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Post by IwanttheTruth on Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:22 pm

They have reopened the case!!!

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Post by IwanttheTruth on Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:23 pm

On sky news ;) hope they find her!!! Safe and alive!

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Post by IwanttheTruth on Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:25 pm

rosemary wrote:Excellent news!

PUT THAT UP YOUR POMPOUS **** and smoke it Goncalo.....
Hell yeah!!!

Iv been following this since 2007 I'm on tenterhooks now

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Post by Pedro Silva on Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:25 am

My friends, this was taken from BBC news:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-VYnrfj5I4

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24655826

also taken from Sky News:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rExNjTBPsp4

also taken from ITV news:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNUmbZC_ELk

http://www.itv.com/news/story/2013-10-23/madeleine-probe-may-re-open/


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Post by Pedro Silva on Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:37 am

My friends, this was taken from RTP news:

http://www.rtp.pt/noticias/index.php?article=690482&tm=8&layout=121&visual=49

Prosecutor reopens investigation into Madeleine McCann

RTP Lusa Oct 24, 2013 13:05 / Updated on Oct 24, 2013 13:46

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The prosecutor confirmed this Thursday to reopen the investigation into the disappearance of British child Madeleine McCann, occurred in 2007 in the Algarve. A decision after collecting new elements by the Judicial Police and had been reported in the last hours by British station Sky News.

A note from the Attorney General's Office states that the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann is taken under the criminal procedure law, according to which 'the inquiry can only be reopened if new evidence invalidating the grounds raised by the MP order of filing. " prosecutor's decision indicates the same statement follows the "presentation of new evidentiary elements that justify further investigations".

The note does not specify what new evidence collected by the Judicial Police, adding only that the investigation underway in Portimao, Algarve, "was applied to the competent investigating judge to postpone the deadline for access to the file objectively required for the conclusion of the investigation, because it believes that the regime imposes secrecy."

It was July 21, 2008 that prosecutors announced the closing of the investigation about Madeleine and survey the condition of the accused child's parents, Gerry and Kate McCann and Robert Murat, a British citizen who lived in the Algarve.

In the past 3 days October, Scotland Yard said in London that the Portuguese criminal investigation police are no longer comprised a team with the mission of following lines of investigation ompiled by the British authorities in the wake of a direct intervention of Prime Minister David Cameron.

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The role of the BBC

Portugal was one of the 31 countries that received letters rogatory British police to request assistance for clarification of information on individuals or telephone data . In June , the UK authorities reported the existence of " 38 people of interest " they wanted to question them. Including Portuguese citizens .

In investigating the case for about a year, Scotland Yard has proved convinced he could muster " new information " relevant , from a collection of 40 000 documents and clues collected not only by the Portuguese and British authorities , but also by eight firms of private investigators .

On the 14th , the BBC issued in his program Crimewatch reconstruction of the alleged abduction of British minor , using actors . And requested the assistance of the public to collect clues . Twenty -four hours after this issue, point in the London Metropolitan Police have received more than 2,400 calls and e-mails .

British investigators then have eliminated a clue about a potential kidnapper , then concentrate attention on a second man who had been seen carrying a child on her lap near the apartment complex where the McCanns were on holiday .

Inspector Andy Redwood claimed at the time that the disappearance of Maddie , " a single reading of evidence " contained " the ingredients of a planned abduction ."





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Post by Pedro Silva on Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:45 am

My friends, this was taken from Sky News:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT2afOh9wXo


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Post by Pedro Silva on Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:46 am

My friends, this was taken from The Week with The First Post:

http://www.theweek.co.uk/crime/madeleine-mccann/53972/madeleine-mccann-police-portugal-re-open-case#ixzz2idpVfLhd

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Post by Pedro Silva on Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:47 am

IwanttheTruth, your words are mine.

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Post by Pedro Silva on Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:43 am

My friends, this was taken from The Algarve Resident newspaper:

http://www.algarveresident.com/0-55727/algarve/portuguese-police-reopen-madeleine-mccann-inquiry

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Post by Pedro Silva on Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:49 am

My friends, this was taken from The Portugal News newspaper:

http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/portugal-orders-re-opening-of-madeleine-case/29711

http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/uk-police-case-re-opened-due-to-new-lines-of-enquiry/29729

http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/kate-and-gerry-pleased-case-has-been-re-opened/29730


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Post by IwanttheTruth on Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:02 am

Bring Madeleine home!!! Something's gotta happen soon!

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Post by Pedro Silva on Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:37 am

yes IwanttheTruth, I agree, the much sooner the better.

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Post by Pedro Silva on Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:42 am

My friends, this was taken from TVI24 news channel:

http://www.tvi24.iol.pt/503/sociedade/maddie-madeleine-mccann-rogerio-alves-tvi24/1502871-4071.html

Maddie : " New evidence excludes parents »

Enquiry now reopened will be conducted by the same prosecutor who had been the holder of the procedure previously filed process.

The lawyer for the parents of the English child, disappeared in the Algarve in 2007 , revealed that the couple was informed that the new evidence on the basis of the re-investigation "excludes the 'parents of Madeleine McCann".

Rogério Alves spoke Lusa on the reopening of the investigation by the PT prosecutors about the possibility of Gerry and Kate MaCann may come to be again made ​​defendants .

"The family was informed that the new evidence at all excludes the parents ' the attorney assured .

The PGR announced July 21, 2008 the public prosecutor filed the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and raised the status of defendant 's parents and Robert Murat ( British citizen who resided in the Algarve ) , pointing out that he could reopen the case , case arose 'new evidence' , which now occurred .

The Portuguese Public Ministry today decided to reopen the investigation , a decision welcomed by the British police , which is conducting an investigation in parallel .

Madeleine´s parents are 'very satisfied' with the reopening of the investigation

Speaking to Lusa , Rogério Alves said the family of the missing child are satisfied" and will look forward about updates that the new evidences may lead ."

The lawyer stressed that the reopening of the case " is not the judgment of the previous investigation" , although it has not ' reached the expected result ', which was to discover the truth and what happened to Madeleine McCann .

However , a source close to the investigation told Lusa that now reopened the investigation will be conducted by the same attorney MP from Portimão , which had been previously filed case holder .

The MP said that the reopening of the investigation is in response to a proposal of the Judicial Police , given the 'presentation of new evidentiary elements that justify further investigation. "

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Post by Pedro Silva on Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:09 am

My friends, this was taken from SIC online news channel:

http://sicnoticias.sapo.pt/pais/2013/10/24/advogado-dos-pais-de-maddie-espera-que-reabertura-do-caso-permita-descoberta-da-verdade

Attorney for parents of Madeleine expects reopening of the case allows the discovery of truth

The lawyer for the parents of Madeleine, Rogério Alves, believes that the reopening of the investigation allows to investigate indications that have not been sufficiently explored and admits that Gerry and Kate McCann will ask to be assistants in the process.

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Post by Tinkerbell43 on Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:03 am

At last!! Now lets get the job done properly and find this little one.

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Post by Pedro Silva on Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:50 am

Tinkerbell, your words are mine, I agree with you.

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Post by Pedro Silva on Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:54 am

My friends, this was taken from BBC News:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LE4S2OgFA8

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Post by Tinkerbell43 on Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:08 am

This is indeed fantastic news Pedro. We always knew the PJ would not reopen the case unless there was fresh leads so dare I say this is very very encouraging. It seems to be picking up momentum both here and in Portugal so lets hope this finally leads to the whereabouts of dear Madeleine.

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