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Post by clairesy on Fri May 13, 2011 8:12 am

Just heard it on the news now...and Clarence giving a speech that the case will be opened and Scotland yard are investigating!!! yayyyyy


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Post by clairesy on Fri May 13, 2011 8:16 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13378289


BREAKING NEWS10:07pm UK, Thursday May 12, 2011
Madeleine: Scotland Yard Join The Search

Scotland Yard are to "bring their expertise" to the search for Madeleine McCann, the Home Office has said.
The move comes after Kate and Gerry McCann hit out at the actions of the Government department, saying it had offered "words, but no action" to assist them in the investigation.
They welcomed the review and thanked the Government for committing such a significant resource as the Met.
"This is clearly a step in the right direction," they said.
"The expertise of the Metropolitan Police is renowned and we are reassured by our Government's commitment to the search for Madeleine.
"We would like to thank Mr Cameron and the Home Secretary for committing such a significant resource as the Metropolitan Police to begin this review process.
"We would also like to thank the general public for the way in which they have continued to support our campaign to find Madeleine."
The couple had earlier made an impassioned plea to the Prime Minister, writing him a letter and urging him to call for a joint UK-Portugal review of all the information gathered since Madeleine vanished four years ago.
Their letter began: "As a devoted father and family man, you know the importance of children."
A Home Office spokesman said: "The Prime Minister and the Home Secretary have today agreed with Sir Paul Stephenson that the Metropolitan Police will bring its particular expertise to this case."
The spokesman added that the Government hopes Scotland Yard can bring a new perspective to the case and the Home Office will be providing "the necessary financial support".
He went on: "The Government's primary concern has always been and remains the safe return of Madeleine.
"Although she disappeared in Portugal, and the Portuguese retain the lead responsibility in the case, law enforcement agencies here have continued to follow up leads and pass information to the Portuguese authorities as appropriate."
He added that the details would not be appropriate to discuss at this stage.
At a press conference to mark the launch of her book 'Madeleine' earlier today, Kate McCann said: "When you're in a position such as the Prime Minister, you have a responsibility.
"If you're not willing to work for a child, you have to ask, 'who are you working for'?"
Mr McCann added: "We've met three separate home secretaries, and we're still not sure what the Government has actually done.
"The Prime Minister does have it in his power to pick up the phone and speak to his counterpart."
He said: "We really have come to the end of our tether. We want to see action from the Government, not rhetoric."
The McCanns met Home Secretary Theresa May after she received a feasibility report on a review.
Kate MCann said: "I asked her if she had read it and she said she hadn't."
She also told them that they were not allowed to read the scoping report because it was "sensitive."
The scoping report is understood to have backed the McCanns' campaign for a joint review, as does the influential Association of Chief Police Officers.
The Portuguese police shelved their investigation after 15 months, effectively ending any official search for Madeleine, who was almost four when she disappeared.
The couple are urging supporters to sign their website petition to press the Government for the joint review

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Post by Pedro Silva on Fri May 13, 2011 8:33 am

Excellent. Awsome news.

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Post by dianeh on Fri May 13, 2011 11:58 am

I can scarcely believe this is true. After all this time, some action.

Thanks to David Cameron for listening to the McCanns and then taking action.

Maybe this is the beginning of the end of the Mystery of Madeleine McCann.
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Post by calcite51 on Fri May 13, 2011 12:52 pm

I think it is excellent news.
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Post by Pedro Silva on Fri May 13, 2011 7:19 pm

http://www.findmadeleine.com/campaigns/independent_review.html

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Post by clairesy on Fri May 13, 2011 7:31 pm

I have such a good feeling about this new approach to the investigation.Scotland yard have soo much to offer to this case.I pray they find Madeleine and end this nightmare for the family.I have had so many good feelings thoughout this case and have been sadly disappointed ...But i feel different this time. i hope and pray im right. Please please god be on their side!!
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Post by Catkins on Fri May 13, 2011 11:44 pm

[b]LETS HOPE ITS WITH A NEW PORTUGUESE TEAM !!!!
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Post by Tinkerbell43 on Sat May 14, 2011 2:33 am

. ecstatic ecstatic ecstatic

YEY, we finally have the news we have all been waiting for.

At long last some actions instead of hollow words!

I am so pleased for Kate, Gerry & Madeleine, my eyes filled up at the news. I hope the PJ will cooperate fully and Paiva is kept as far away from the case as possible. I aso think a few people in Portugal need to be very worried indeed right now!.

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Post by Catkins on Sat May 14, 2011 2:44 am

Yep....bit worried though as I dont think they will want the Met to see what a shambles the whole things has been hitthefan
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Post by christabel on Sat May 14, 2011 3:28 am

Tinkerbell43 wrote: .

YEY, we finally have the news we have all been waiting for.

At long last some actions instead of hollow words!

I am so pleased for Kate, Gerry & Madeleine, my eyes filled up at the news. I hope the PJ will cooperate fully and Paiva is kept as far away from the case as possible. I aso think a few people in Portugal need to be very worried indeed right now!.

Agreed Tinks.

I see a few resignations coming up before this starts to get going. Paiva, another beast of Portimao. IMO, it is him who's passed all the info to Gonc after September 2007.

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Post by Pedro Silva on Sat May 14, 2011 3:30 am

Yes my friends, I agree with you.

About new Portuguese team: under the control of Scotland Yard.

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Post by Tinkerbell43 on Sat May 14, 2011 7:19 am

I agree with your opinion Chris! I think Kate summed him up so well when she called him a f......g Tosser.

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Post by jean on Sat May 14, 2011 11:09 am

I'm sorry to be a damp squibb but this was in the Telegraph - as you will see from the article some people are questioning the cost and will try to stop this re-examination happening. There will be a lot of flack flying about - let's hope that David Cameron doesn't loose his nerve and cancel the whole thing. The antis will be out in force and will try to blow the whole thing out of all proportion, saying that it will cost the millions that we as a country can't afford. A woman from the Met (named Julia Jones I think) has already stated that they have had to cut back, and spending millions on re-examining Madeleine's case wouldn't be worth it because there would be no guarantee of a result. It really does annoy me that so much money is sent to the Foreign Aid, yet they are questioning the move to help find a little BRITISH girl.

Madeleine McCann police review to take years and cost millionsMPs criticise PM's ordering of lengthy and costly Scotland Yard review of police investigation into child's disappearance

The Metropolitan police review of the investigation into her disapperance ordered by David Cameron has been criticised by MPs, and is likely to take years and cost millions. The Metropolitan police review into the abduction of Madeleine McCann could take months or even years to complete and cost millions of pounds.

Detectives from Scotland Yard's homicide command face huge difficulties in examining all the paperwork that details the inquiry into the three-year-old's disappearance in Portugal in 2007. First they will have to wait for all the documentation to be provided by the Portuguese police, and then all the material must be translated before a team of detectives begins the arduous task of reviewing the whole inquiry. They will also review all the files from police in Leicestershire, the McCann's home force, which provided some support to the Portuguese, and those of private investigators who have been working on behalf of the family for the past four years.

Scotland Yard have begun an exercise to work out what size team should be involved in the Madeleine review. It is likely to include detectives from the child homicide unit at the Yard.

The prime minister's decision to order the Met to review the case was criticised by some politicians.

Labour peer Lord Harris of Haringey told the PoliticsHome website that he had worries about the way Cameron and the Home Office had behaved.

"It raises very big questions about political direction of the police," said Harris. "Of course it goes without saying that this is a very heart-breaking case, but what we are looking at is a case where the Met has no direct responsibility.

"There is clearly an issue about the resources being used and are they in effect saying that the Met is the default investigator for every case in the world involving a British citizen?

"It's not just a question of direct costs, it's a question of opportunity costs too. Our detective capacity is limited as it is."

The prime minister's official spokesman said that Cameron and Theresa May had asked the Met to review the evidence in response to a request by the McCann family because of the "exceptional" nature of the case.

"There has been a huge amount of public interest in this case since it began, Madeleine McCann has been missing for a long time, there is the international dimension," the spokesman said.

"The prime minister has been clear that he wants to do everything he can to support the family."

The spokesman denied that Cameron and May had been directing police on an operational matter.

"It was done at the request of the home secretary. It was agreed by Sir Paul Stephenson. That is not a direction," he said.

Scotland Yard has had some high-profile success in solving cases which at first sight seemed intractable. After 16 years a new investigation of the Rachel Nickell murder led in 2008 to her killer Robert Napper being brought to justice following a DNA breakthrough.

It was a review by a senior homicide detective of all the evidence gathered in an investigation into a serial rapist in south London that led to the conviction of Kirk Reid in 2009. After eight years in which no one had been arrested for scores of rapes it took the detective just a few hours with the paperwork to identify Reid as the main suspect. Five days later he had matched his DNA to two of the assaults and Reid was finally brought to justice.

The approach in the Madeleine review will be the same as in any re-examination of cases in the UK, a police source said. "What we do is painstakingly look at all the evidence, the paperwork, the CCTV, any suspects who came to light and were investigated. Sometimes it takes fresh eyes to see what was always there."

Madeleine of Rothley, Leicestershire, vanished from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz on the Algarve in May 2007. Her parents were dining in a restaurant about 100 metres away and were checking on Madeleine and her siblings every half an hour. The Portuguese inquiry was halted formally in July 2008.

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Post by dianeh on Sat May 14, 2011 11:11 am

On the other hand Tinks, Kate may have been kind to him and was holding back.

If the Portuguese Justice Minister is smart, they will use this as an opportunity for specialist training in an area where they need improvement. He should broadcast it far and wide that it is a step to becoming world class and using world's best practice. And if any of the PJ refuse to co-operate, sack them. Portugal need not be embarassed by what happened, but they will be embarrassed if they do not stop it from happening again.
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Post by dianeh on Sat May 14, 2011 11:20 am

Jean

It is a brave MP who would put a price on the life of a child. Can you imagine next time they run for election? Totally agree about foreign aid, we also have a problem here with it. We have homeless people and a health system stretched to breaking point and we give money away to corrupt govts that oppress and murder their people.

I find it hard to believe that after going public with the news of a review that it wont happen. That is not a good look for the govt. And it is a worse look for those MP's opposing it on the grounds that it costs too much, or those that oppose it for political reasons (ie the comment about interfering in police operations). How much is a little girl's life worth????

And TBH, it is not simply about one little girl. If this was done by a people smugglers, for whatever reason, then other children will also be taken. It cannot be allowed to go unresolved, for Madeleine's sake and for the other future victims.
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Post by jean on Sat May 14, 2011 12:29 pm

I agree Diane - I just hope that David Cameron has more people on his side than against him. The problem is that they are saying that MP's shouldn't be allowed to influence the Met in any way - that may be the sticking point. We will just have to start writing letters again in support of the re-examination of the files. I just wish I could win the lottery so that I could fund the whole process!

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Post by clairesy on Sun May 15, 2011 4:18 am

David wont cancel the whole thing...he has decided to go ahead so to go back would be like saying as a prime minister he is incapable of making huge decisions without the go ahead of the public...bit of a wimp!!. He cant back out if he does then it will be a complete fail not only in this case (on his behalf) but also as a prime minister. The yard are investigating and have been given 3 and half million pounds of British money to do so!!Its not come from their own budget so.

Thats a lot of cash to work with!! good luck to them,i hope and pray they crack the case and find little Madeleine.
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Post by Pedro Silva on Sun May 15, 2011 6:36 am

clairesy, I agree with you my friend.

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Post by clairesy on Sun May 15, 2011 8:30 am

I can see where some of the British people are coming from when they question things like...well why this case??what about all the other missing children?? Because in all fairness (and god forbid!) if anything happened to my child on holiday and she went missing i would be mortified if i couldn't get the help of my country to help find my little girl again.It would break my heart,finish me off and i think i would rather have my heart stopp beating than have to live the rest of my life not knowing whats happening to my baby girl.Madeleine is by no means any different,special or important than any other missing child,or adult.She is also not more worthy or more wanted than any other child or adult is to their family and friends.Not one person is expendable.

Paul and rachel (the british couple held hostage by samali pirates) springs to mind because they were held on the belief that somehow the kidnappers would gain millions from their family.They were wrong and the family were in no position to give money to the kidnappers and the British government refused to help with the ransom.There are other cases to that spring to mind and i wonder if their families are feeling a tad sore at the moment that their loved ones are still out there and the uk government seem to be doing nothing for them.I know i would

HOWEVER.....having said all that i can understand kate and gerrys strive to get help because as i said i would want the same thing myself.And like them i would fight hell and high waters to bring my child home.They have tried for 4 years and wrote a letter to david cameron for help....and luckily for the mccanns the prime minister said he would help.
No one in their right mind would turn down such help and kate and gerry CANNOT AND SHOULD NOT be criticised for asking for help and receiving and welcoming that help .

Madeleine's abduction (for some reason) has been major international news from day one, receiving much more publicity than any other missing persons case...so i guess thats to the mccanns advantage too because they have the whole world watching and praying!!

It would be all too easy for david cameron to write a quiet private(un reported by media) letter to joe blogs(the family of another missing person) and refuse help..but for Kate and gerry?? being in the worlds media means that david cameron also has the whole world watching and praying that he says he will help them...and that,i think, has given david Cameron the push the mccanns wanted for him to say he will help .I dont believe he would of helped had Madeleine's abduction not been such a high profiled case.

Im just sooo please he has said yes to them...and i pray with al my heart they get to the bottom of it soon! As i said No one in their right mind would turn down such help and kate and gerry CANNOT AND SHOULD NOT be criticised for asking for help and receiving and welcoming that help .
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Post by clairesy on Sun May 15, 2011 10:55 am

Just got this from google alerts....


Madeleine McCann detective is named

Published Date: 15 May 2011
By Nicholas Christian
THE DETECTIVE who will lead Scotland Yard's review of the Madeleine McCann case conducted an investigation which snared a killer after a cold case review.
Scotland Yard said Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood, from the Homicide and Serious Crime Command (HSCC), would be the senior investigating officer in the case.
He led the investigation which captured murderer Miguel da Silva, who went on the run for 15 years after strangling mother-of-two Susan Martin, 44, in 1994. Da Silva was jailed for life at the Old Bailey last November and told that he must serve at least 16 years behind bars.

The court heard that da Silva, described as "possessive and controlling", throttled his lover at her flat in Notting Hill, west London, the day before she planned to leave him to go back to Manchester. He handed himself in to police but in 1995 escaped from a hospital and fled to Spain where he raped two women while on the run, before being traced in 2009


In January 1999 he was jailed for seven years for raping a woman he had befriended in Torremolinos and in May 2008 was given a nine-year sentence for a similar attack in Salamanca. But the crimes did not at first lead to his capture by British police as he was using false identities. It was only after detectives launched a cold case review in 2009 that circulated his fingerprints to Spain and Portugal that they found he was already in custody.

The review of the case comes after intervention by Prime Minister David Cameron and has been criticised in some quarters as undermining the independence of the force.

Madeleine's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, have welcomed it.

Portuguese police helped by officers from Leicestershire Police investigated Madeleine's disappearance from her family's holiday flat in Praia da Luz in the Algarve on 3 May, 2007, shortly before her fourth birthday. But the official inquiry was formally shelved in July 2008 and since then no police force has been actively looking for the missing child.


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