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Post by jackf on Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:19 pm

Paedophile Pair Found Guilty Of Killing Woman

5:51pm UK, Thursday June 10, 2010

James Matthews, Scotland correspondent

Two of the country's most dangerous paedophiles have been found guilty of killing a woman who was going to report their abuse of a young boy.


Charles O'Neill, 47, and William Lauchlan, 33, strangled 39-year-old Alison McGarrigle before dumping her body in the sea off Largs in Ayrshire.
Police initially believed that she had simply gone missing when she disappeared in 1998. In 2005, however, they declared her dead.
The breakthrough in the hunt for her killers came when they boasted about the murder.
Both Lauchlan and O'Neill had a history of abusing young boys. In 1998, they were jailed for abusing five youngsters.
Following their release, their child sex crimes continued - in Scotland and in Benidorm, where they had set up a cleaning business.
It was while they were abusing a boy in Ayrshire that Alison McGarrigle found out and threatened to tell the police.

Convicted paedophiles Charles O'Neill (left) and William Lauchlan
Detectives believe they strangled her in their flat, which she was sharing at the time, and then hid her body under rocks on Largs beach before putting it in a wheelie bin and dumping it at sea.
Despite repeated appeals for information and an extensive search of the seabed off Largs, no trace of Alison was ever found.
Police suspicions surrounding Lauchlan and O'Neill were never brought to court due to a lack of strong evidence.
Over the years, however, different witnesses heard them boast about having killed the single mother.
One man told the High Court in Glasgow how O'Neill said to him "she's feeding the fishes down there," and nodded towards the Firth of Clyde.
In Spain they told a man they knew that Ms McGarrigle had been "got rid of" and repeated she had been "fed to the fishes."

Allison McGarrigle, killed by two paedophiles she threatened to expose
In prison, O'Neill had told a fellow prisoner she had been "done away with."
Just weeks prior to their murder conviction, the pair were found guilty in a separate trial of grooming a six year-old boy for sex.
In the same trial, they were also convicted of abducting and sexually abusing a 15-year-old boy in Spain and O'Neill was convicted of drugging a 14-year-old boy and abusing him.
The judge in the murder trial, Lord Pentland, described the pair, who were lovers, as "evil, determined and manipulative paedophiles of the worst sort."
Both were given life sentences, with O'Neill to serve a minium of 30 years and Lauchlan a minimum of 26 years.
They were also jailed for 10 years each for the recent sexual abuse convictions.
Sentencing the pair, Lord Pentland said: "It is clear that you are both dangerous and determined predatory paedophiles and that you now represent a high risk to the safety of the public."://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3009422/Life-for-murder-paedo-wanted-by-Maddie-tecs.html

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Post by jackf on Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:21 pm

By ANTONELLA LAZZERI
Published: Today
A SERIAL paedophile linked to the Madeleine McCann case was yesterday jailed for life for murder.
Charles O'Neill has repeatedly refused to be quizzed by detectives working for Maddie's parents Kate and Gerry.

But the private eyes will now try again. O'Neill, 47, is believed to have been in Portugal when Maddie, then three, vanished from an apartment in Praia da Luz on the Algarve in May 2007.
Yesterday he was sentenced for killing mum-of-three Allison McGarrigle who threatened to reveal he and gay lover William Lauchlan were abusing a child.

Ex-boxer O'Neill and Lauchlan, 33, strangled Allison 13 years ago in Largs, Ayrshire.

They dumped her body at sea and it has never been found.

The High Court in Glasgow ordered O'Neill to serve a minimum of 30 years and Lauchlan, a minimum of 26 years.

They were handed a further 10 years each for abusing two boys aged six and 14.
The pair had been jailed in 1988 over 31 charges of drugging and assaulting young children but were freed in 2002.

They fled to Spain and set up a cleaning business for holiday apartments.

They travelled to Portugal several times.

In April 2004 they abducted, drugged and abused a 15-year-old English boy in Spain.

O'Neill was still there three years later when seven-year-old Spanish Jeremy Vargus vanished from Gran Canaria.

Two months later Maddie went missing - and O'Neill was thought to be on the Algarve at the time.

Jeremy's mother Ithaisa Suarez, 24, and Kate, 41, from Rothley, Leics, have written to each other regularly.

Kate and Gerry have also included information about the Jeremy case on their website.

Last night the McCanns' spokesman Clarence Mitchell confirmed: "Investigators have been fully aware of O'Neill and his background but have not been able to take him any further forward as an active line of investigation."


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Post by jackf on Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:45 pm

Here's an old article about this pair :

http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2007/10/14/murder-
suspects-pose-as-holiday-cleaners-78057-19948531/


Murder Suspects Pose As Holiday Cleaners

Oct 14 2007 By Billy Paterson

Child Abusers Linked To Murder Pose As Cleaning Experts At Family
Holiday Homes Exclusive

TWO prime murder suspects are posing as directors of a firm that cleans
family holiday homes in the island of Gran Canaria.

Paedophiles Charles O'Neill, 44, and William Lauchlan, 30, fled
Scotland when they were released from prison last year.

We can reveal they now run Rainbow Cleaning Services on the Canary
Island where unsuspecting parents of young children let them into their
holiday homes.

O'Neill calls himself a "forensic cleaner" and a member of the British
Institute of Cleaning.

Last night a spokesman for the BIC said no one with that name was
registered with them.

The former boxer was jailed for eight years and his cousin, Lauchlan
sentenced to six years in 1998 for abusing six boys aged between 11 and
15.

One key witnesses was to have been mum-of-three Allison McGarrigle, who
once stayed with O'Neill and Lauchlan at their home in Largs, Ayrshire.

The 40-year-old, of Rothesay, Isle of Bute disappeared 10 years ago and
has not been seen since.

In April 2005 both men appeared at Kilmarnock Sheriff Court charged
with her murder and attempting to pervert the course of justice by
disposing of her body.

O'Neill was alleged to have boasted to fellow inmates at Glasgow's
Barlinnie Prison and Peterhead jail he had killed Allison and fed her
"to the fishes".

But the Crown never brought the case to court after "very careful
consideration" of the evidence.

When they were released from prison for the child abuse offences
O'Neill and Lauchlan broke their parole conditions by fleeing to the
Spanish resort of Benidorm.

They were arrested in 2004 and returned to Scotland to serve the rest
of their sentences. O'Neill was released in November last year, a month
after Lauchlan.

Elizabeth Marshall, a Largs councillor, was a member of Victim Support
at the time the paedophiles' offences came to light and counselled one
of their victims.

She said last night: "That victim said his life was ruined by these two.

"They spiked drinks and drugged and threatened victims saying the same
fate would befall their mothers as had happened to Alison McGarrigle
and that they would be fed to the fishes.

"It is very disturbing people like that are running a business where
they have access to young children.

"I will alert the police here and hopefully they will pass it on to the
authorities in the Canary Islands."

An advertising feature for Rainbow Cleaning Services on the Canary
Islands Round Town News site states: "William and Charlie have invested
a lot of time and money and recruited and personally trained their
staff.

"This is a polished service (no pun intended) with a professional image
to boot.

"Charlie is a former environmental health officer who trained in the UK
and is a registered member of the British Institute of Cleaning
Science.

"William is a forensic/industrial cleaner and the inhouse trainer of
staff."

When the Sunday Mail first contacted Rainbow Cleaning Services we were
told neither O'Neill or Lauchlan was available.

When we made a second call we were told they had sold the firm three
weeks ago.

Last night a senior police source said that the Allison McGarrigle case
remained open.

He added: "These inquiries are never closed and are pursued if any new
information comes to light."

SUNDAY EMAIL

b.paterson@sundaymail.co.uk

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Post by jackf on Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:10 pm

Their work advert in 2007 :

http://www.roundtownnews.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11653&Itemid=38

Rainbow Cleaning Services

Tuesday, 03 July 2007

Pottering around with my spray polish and duster, I decided to have a coffee break and lo" and behold the "phone rang. Would I be interested in meeting with William from Rainbow Cleaning Services and having a chat about this new company? William and Charlie have invested a lot of time and money and recruited and personally trained their staff. This is a polished service (no pun intended) with a professional image to boot. Charlie is a former Environmental Health Officer who trained in the U.K. and is a registered member of the British Institute of Cleaning Science. As well as this, William is a Forensic/Industrial cleaner and the in-house trainer of staff. Yes, a busy young man, because all staff who work for Rainbow Cleaning Services are personally trained to his high standard.
William is the Marketing Director and even he has been known to strip off from his very smart business attire and don the company uniform and get his hands on the power tools with his team. Yes, William is fully trained too. All Rainbow Cleaning Services staff wear the company uniform and arrive at your premises in the company van. Whether you live in an apartment, duplex with swimming pool or run a "pool bar /restaurant, pub/club, or have apartments for let to holiday-makers, Rainbow Cleaning Services are on hand to help you.
All their products are purchased and shipped from the U.K. Pressure washing/steam cleaning/terraces, swimming pools/graffiti removal/extractor fans/bathrooms/toilets/mattresses, general household upkeep, it"s all provided. This range of services is for households and company premises alike. For commercial premises, Charlie is qualified to issue a certificate to state that all cleaning is carried out to Environmental Health Standards. Look around in the south of Gran Canaria and you can see these certificates already being displayed in some restaurants. That certainly gets my vote of approval. Keys can be held and are currently held for existing clients.
Residential premises...trust is a big issue for many of us, isn"t it, and Rainbow Cleaning Services already have keys for many private houses on the island and operate an Index Security System with cross references for these keys. In other words, no-one picking up these keys can identify the premises they relate to...relief and assurance that all is safe. Let me run through just some of their areas of excellence...hair and skin in household drains, sinks, showers trays, bathrooms, toilets, bidets. Rugs, carpets, window cleaning, stain removal, rust stains, red wine stains, gum stains, awnings/toldos, wood/marble flooring. All equipment is to professional standard. All cleaning cloths are NEW for every job which greatly reduces the risks of cross contamination and infection.
When these boys come into your home they can clean away the bacteria under your taps, yes, it"s probably lurking there. I just had to mention this because it is a rather gruesome thought, but it is reality staring us in the face. Rainbow Cleaning Services are the "dirt detectives" of Gran Canaria and once you have used their very professional service, you will be calling them on a regular basis. Give their office a call on 679 30 40 80 for more information. Remember, consultations are free and without any obligation.

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Post by Pedro Silva on Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:23 pm

I really don´t understand, why these newspapers or people have to publish or say that paedophiles are linked with this case, when there is nothing to suggest (apparentely) any connection with this case. In my opinion, more speculation.

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Post by Tinkerbell43 on Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:12 pm

I know it is unpleasant Pedro and its not a place in my mind that I like to go, but Clarence has said the PI's have been aware of this persons background but have not been able to take him any further forward.

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Post by Pedro Silva on Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:38 pm

I understand what you mean my friend. Bu I still think, in my opinion, that paedophiles (apparentely) may not be connected to this case, but, I say, everything must be explored. Let´s suppose (although no evidence to prove this) that a paedophile abudcted her, because she fits a purpose, she is alive, so, she can be found, she have the entire life to endure with the support of family, experts / psychologists to assist in this issue. Take a look for example: Natasha Kampusch, Jaycee Dugard. Shawn Hornbeck. Children are more though then we think. Although about paedophiles in this case: it´s not a path I´m following.

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Post by clairesy on Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:02 pm

Following their release, their child sex crimes continued - in Scotland and in Benidorm, where they had set up a cleaning business.

that bit as stood out for me....i remember way back in the beginning reading both brians dreams and merlin. Both mention a cleaner of some sort.I know they mentioned cleaner because minxy and myself were thinking someone at the ocean club.The reason we thought that was because a cleaner who got fired from working at the ocean club not to long before Madeleine was taken was said to have been angry about losing her job and wanted revenge.

Im glad kate and gerry are in touch with Jeremy Vargus parents still,ive always wondered weather these two little ones abduction were connected because there were soo many similaritys between the both .
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Post by AlexG on Sat Jun 12, 2010 1:48 pm

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Post by Rosie on Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:34 pm

At first I wondered what this had to do with Madeleine? For a start these despicable ******** appear to have attacked only boys. But then Grand Canaria was mentioned and they were there when little Yeremi disappeared aged 6 years! Then several parts of this convoluted story that made me take notice, not least this:

Rainbow Cleaning Services already have keys for many private houses on the island and operate an Index Security System with cross references for these keys. In other words, no-one picking up these keys can identify the premises they relate to...relief and assurance that all is safe

They were also known to be on the Algarve when Madeleine disappeared. Who knows what these pair were involved in? On the surface they looked respectable successful business men operating a successful business, what lay beneath the surface? Did they trade in children? Who the hell knows? I don't!

Did they clean empty apartments in and around Praia da Luz?

If the McCanns investigators wanted to talk to them, they must have wanted to do so for reasons we do not know about.
Also if Yeremi's mother feels there is a connection between her son going missing and Madeleine, who are we to doubt her? Never underestimate a mother's bond with her children, they often just know things. When the umbilical cord is cut, it is cut physically, but I can tell you as a mother, it is NEVER cut mentally, you are tied to your children forever, unseen, but never doubt the bond. Personally, I believe Yeremi's mother and I believe Kate McCann, I would not dream of doubting their instinctive feelings about their children.

I have no idea about this, all i know is that everything must be investigated and it is about time that authorities started to cooperate with the McCanns investigators and help them find Madeleine and who knows, other children may also be found, I still have not forgotten Rui Pedro Teixera. What that poor lad's mother is going through God alone knows!

The Portuguese boy’s mother, Filomena Teixera, flew to Switzerland to view the pictures and was apparently able to identify her son. But he was never found. Investigators fear that he may have been killed to cover up the abuse.

It's no secret that I have for along time thought there was a connection between these cases (Not Rui Pedro's). I think although I do not want to think it, that there were just too many paedophiles in Portugal at the time Madeleine disappeared, they were not there by some kind of sick fluke, they were there for a reason. This is why I felt it was vitally important to interview Raymond Hewlett before the ******* died. Hewlett would be just the type of person that these people would know. He was a convicted paedophile, drifting with his second family always on the look out for work to make some cash, he was known to reside in Spain as well as Portugal. No wonder the McCanns investigators want to to talk to these men, I hope they do a better job of talking to them than they did about talking to Hewlett! I have always thought that there would be a connection between these two cases and that of "another" and I still think that there is a possibility that Raymond Hewlett knew something and that is not an unreasonable thought. I don't necessarily think he abducted Madeleine, (although I can clearly see a scenario that could have involved him, it's not rocket science) and I still maintain that his partner Mariana, looks more like that efit than any other person that has come to the public's attention- and I have not forgotten how each witness that saw this man apparently carrying Madeleine away, or who may have seen him previously in the area, has intimated there was something odd about him, who knows what they were picking up? I also don't necessarily think that Madeleine was abducted by paedophiles for paedophiles, she could just as well have been abducted for someone for a family, her abduction arranged by people that have links to illegal abductions and illegal child placements. Who knows? All I know is, that because of Goncalo Amaral, Madeleine's abductors have been allowed to get away with her abduction, whether this was done on purpose or by design, I don't know, but learning of the corruption going on in Portugal and how things like this are hushed up and glossed over, I would rule absolutely nothing out and unless the investigators get a cast iron break, a break that no particular country can deny as taking place then they will continue to get nowhere.
I absolutely believe that the McCanns were made arguidos to take the attention away from from Portugal and by a certain person whom I believe is up to their neck in this (and others).
Believe me I do not want to think this, but something happened to Madeleine, she did not just disappear and fall off the edge of the earth, she is somewhere, and while there is the smallest chance of her being found alive, no matter who has got her, or where she is, we MUST keep on looking, we simply have no right to stop. Madeleine is an innocent child, we cannot just stop looking for her, no more than Yeremi's mother can stop looking for her son, or Rui's mother can stop looking for him. Why should they? Who the hell are we to tell them this? Meanwhile for all those that do genuinely care about what happened to Madeleine and these other children, we have to do everything we possibly can to help these parents, what we should not be doing is making their lives hell on earth and throwing every single obstacle into their paths in order to make them stop searching. (Which is just what the likes of Goncalo Amaral want). Everyone who signs up to abusing the McCanns and who lines up to flatter that corrupted ex cop, is actually signing up to allowing child abductors to get away with their heinous crimes and God knows what else!

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Post by Rosie on Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:57 pm

One other thing, I believe Madeleine McCann's disappearance will ultimately be connected to the world of drugs in some way or another!

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Post by Pedro Silva on Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:05 pm

My friend Rosiepops, I agree with you: "I absolutely believe that the McCanns were made arguidos to take the attention away from from Portugal and by a certain person whom I believe is up to their neck in this (and others). She is somewhere, and while there is the smallest chance of her being found alive, no matter who has got her, or where she is, we MUST keep on looking, we simply have no right to stop. Madeleine is an innocent child, we cannot just stop looking for her, no more than Yeremi's mother can stop looking for her son, or Rui's mother can stop looking for him. Why should they? Who the hell are we to tell them this? Meanwhile for all those that do genuinely care about what happened to Madeleine and these other children, we have to do everything we possibly can to help these parents, what we should not be doing is making their lives hell on earth and throwing every single obstacle into their paths in order to make them stop searching. (Which is just what the likes of Goncalo Amaral want). Everyone who signs up to abusing the McCanns and who lines up to flatter that corrupted ex cop, is actually signing up to allowing child abductors to get away with their heinous crimes and God knows what else!".

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Post by AlexG on Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:21 pm

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Post by Cath on Mon Jun 14, 2010 7:44 pm

You're right, closure, knowing what's happened is important, even if it isn't a happy ending.
Unfortunately many cases remain unresolved.

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Post by Rosie on Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:28 pm

I never said anything about you personally Alex.

Closure is fine, but to be able to bring that about certain things must happen first and grieving is one hugely important step and how can these parents do this if they can never be sure about what happened to their children? This is why I support these parents in their attempt to find their children and discover what has happened. I cannot possibly know what it is like to be the mother of Rui Pedro and to have viewed on video what that poor dear woman viewed, for her maybe just a little more than the others it will be even harder to let go? She knew her son was still alive years after he was abducted, she saw this, so there is no way she will be able to let go.
I also take the point of the family of Rui Pedro, when they saw all the "supposed" effort and the expense and resources brought in to find Madeleine, while when their son/brother went missing hardly a search was mounted, no wonder they complained, so would I have done, very loudly too!
All the more need for the European Amber Alert scheme that the McCanns are involved with.

While there is just a glimmer of hope that any of these children can be found alive then the search must continue, if what is eventually discovered is not a happy ending that everyone so wants, then this is necessary too, these parents have every right to know exactly what happened to their children. When they know this, then and only then will they begin to move on the healing process can begin and I wish them all the love and luck I can possibly muster for them.
Throwing every possible obstacle in their path in order to prevent them from discovering what happened to their children and telling them they should not be searching for them, is not only cruel in the extreme, it is absolutely wicked, evil and this last sentence is aimed at Bennett, Amaral and the other antis that think it is a good idea to play fast and loose with the lives or other peoples children!

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Post by jean on Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:05 am

‘Jailed killer holds Maddie hunt key’
Published: Today
A MUM yesterday urged cops to quiz a jailed killer she believes has the key to finding her son and Madeleine McCann.

Charles O'Neill is said to have been in Portugal when Maddie, three, was snatched in 2007.



Two months earlier he was in Gran Canaria, in Spain's Canary Islands, when Jeremy Vargas, seven, vanished.

Jeremy's mum Ithaisa Suarez, 27, said: "I believe he might know where they are, or what happened to them.

"They're identical cases. Children who vanished in minutes, leaving no trace. He's a vile monster and should be questioned again." O'Neill, 47, and his gay lover William Lauchlan were jailed for life last Thursday for murdering mum-of-three Allison McGarrigle in Largs, Ayrshire - to stop her exposing them for child abuse.

The pair had earlier done time for drugging and abusing youngsters. O'Neill has refused to meet detectives working for Maddie's parents Kate and Gerry McCann.

Ithaisa said: "He was interviewed by police looking for Jeremy. They found no evidence. But if he didn't do it, he may know who did."

She said Spanish police told her they believe Maddie and Jeremy may have been targets of the same gang.

All over Gran Canaria there are billboards and posters bearing Jeremy's picture and a telephone number to ring with information.

Ithaisa is appealing to Brits going on holiday there to look at his photo before they arrive so they can help find him. An age progression picture, like the one depicting how Maddie could look aged six, is also being created.

Ithaisa said: "Please, please remember my son. Please keep an eye out for him while you are here. Please look for him. We need your help. Remember Jeremy and Maddie, we need to get them home."

Ithaisa is in regular contact with Kate, of Rothley, Leics. She said: "Like Kate I will never give up looking."

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Post by Rosie on Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:40 pm

Doesn't this just break your heart? How much more suffering have these people got to endure? How is Ithaisa's father? The last I heard this poor man was making himself ill, just sitting on the veranda looking into the street waiting to see Yeremi come home. This makes me so angry, how can people do this to children? How can they cause such pain and suffering? I am glad these two mothers are in touch with each other, only they can know what this is truly like.

The pair had earlier done time for drugging and abusing youngsters. O'Neill has refused to meet detectives working for Maddie's parents Kate and Gerry McCann.

Ithaisa said: "He was interviewed by police looking for Jeremy. They found no evidence. But if he didn't do it, he may know who did."

She said Spanish police told her they believe Maddie and Jeremy may have been targets of the same gang.


Here we have drugs and drugging children being mentioned yet again. We cannot seem to get away from this. I know the Spanish police have found no evidence to suggest that these particular pair are involved, but how do they really know? I find this really suspicious that they were in both places at the time of both abductions. I agree with Ithaisa, they may know who could be involved, same with Hewlett, so could he have known. Why can't the UK police question these two people officially? They originate from Scotland I believe, so this should not be too much of a problem. I would not rule any of these three men out of this, I think they do know something, it is too coincidental that they were there and any good detective always says there is no such thing as coincidence in police work! I know Hewlett is dead, but why doesn't someone try to talk to his partner Mariana?

I was also very interested to read that Yeremi's mother has been told by Spanish police that the children could have been targeted by the same gang, this has come up before, so what did the Portuguese police do about it? What are they doing about it now? Nothing I suppose.

Also we have a new home secretary, Theresa May, is she intending to keep this review of the McCann case up? What is she doing about it?

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Post by clairesy on Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:06 pm

I to believe their could be a connection in these two cases(as ive said before) i would find it an incredibly big coincidence if there isn't a connection...the two were in the canaries when the little boy was snatched and also just two months later in Portugal when Madeleine was taken.

Of course there they may be no connection but to be honest until any connection at al is ruled out i cant see how it can be ruled out!

drugs?i watched a film not long ago where a guy snatched a child and he done it more that once,in order to silence them and make them sleep he put something into their mouth.He was shouting ut it in his mouth get them into his mouth now.When they popped this(whatever it was) into the childs mouth he fell asleep and slept for ages!

god knows what drugs they use on kids to keep them quiet but if Madeleine was drugged this way to silence her it would explain how they were able to carry her away in a sleepy state.

also the true film that this happened in??there were to guys involved,the main man was into abusing little boys.Makes you wonder weather some people get their sordid ideas from films doesn't it? it wouldn't be the first time someone as seen something on tv and carried it out in real life.

If these two guys are in jail now and hopefully to be questioned by the mccanns investigators then lets hope they get the breakthrough they have been waiting for.

I cant even imagine how Rui Pedro family feels,especially his mum after seeing those pictures/videos with him in being abused.That would rip my heart out and frustrate me beyond words.God i don't even want to think about me and my child being in that position,she must feel totally heart wrenched and sick every time she thinks of it,not knowing where he is,not being able to find him or help him yet knowing he is being abused.What a terrible terrible way to have to go on living.
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Post by clairesy on Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:27 am

hi alex

i agree with you, It would be the most horrendous of situations to be in.It must be bad enough to be as the mccanns are...worrying day in day out not knowing never finding and always wondering.

But to know your baby is being abused??and being unable to reach out to them and help them??

cant even begin to understand how that might feel.I would literally be pulling my hair out..they would have to section me because im afraid i would probably do harm to myself or anyone else who got in my way...i think somthing like that can easily send a person insane.
Im sure(i hope) that they are getting some sort of help with what they must be going through

its an extremely frustrating and upsetting thought.God only knows how they feel to be actually living that nightmare
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