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Why Isn't Amaral's Publisher Paying for His Libel Defense?

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Why Isn't Amaral's Publisher Paying for His Libel Defense?

Post by bluj1515 on Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:36 am

I was thinking back to some recent libel cases of which I was aware and the publisher of the material stood behind the author, paid for the defense, got them their own libel-specialist attorney, etc. etc.

Why is this not the case for Amaral?
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Post by Rosie on Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:41 am

Good question Bluj, I thought that the publisher was liable for the libel as they printed it and his book would have had to be checked by the publisher's legal department.

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Post by Sabot on Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:50 am

This is what worries me. These people aren't completely stupid. Amaral may be, but they aren't.

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Post by Rosie on Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:03 am

Hopefully Carter Ruck will be advising Isabel Duarte!

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Post by bluj1515 on Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:13 am

Sabot wrote:This is what worries me. These people aren't completely stupid. Amaral may be, but they aren't.

But I wonder if they have stayed away because they know they are going to lose and what they printed was illegal.
Or is it because Amaral told them to?
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Post by Sabot on Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:25 am

bluj1515 wrote:
Sabot wrote:This is what worries me. These people aren't completely stupid. Amaral may be, but they aren't.

But I wonder if they have stayed away because they know they are going to lose and what they printed was illegal.
Or is it because Amaral told them to?

If you were a half decent publisher, would you print Libel, knowing that you could be held responsible?

Them staying away won't help them.

I don't want to rain on anyone's parade. But neither do I want to get carried away.

Personally, I think Amarals interviews are much more damaging, and I hope that the court is considering them also.

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Post by bluj1515 on Tue Dec 22, 2009 6:54 am

Sabot wrote:
bluj1515 wrote:
Sabot wrote:This is what worries me. These people aren't completely stupid. Amaral may be, but they aren't.

But I wonder if they have stayed away because they know they are going to lose and what they printed was illegal.
Or is it because Amaral told them to?

If you were a half decent publisher, would you print Libel, knowing that you could be held responsible?


If you think you can make a mint, and if you think it's just close enough to the line to not be libel, they sure do. Publishers do it all the time. Remember, they all seemed to expect the McCanns not to pursue them to Portugal, to Europe, and not to win the initial injunction.
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Post by Sabot on Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:10 am

bluj1515 wrote:
Sabot wrote:
bluj1515 wrote:
Sabot wrote:This is what worries me. These people aren't completely stupid. Amaral may be, but they aren't.

But I wonder if they have stayed away because they know they are going to lose and what they printed was illegal.
Or is it because Amaral told them to?

If you were a half decent publisher, would you print Libel, knowing that you could be held responsible?


If you think you can make a mint, and if you think it's just close enough to the line to not be libel, they sure do. Publishers do it all the time. Remember, they all seemed to expect the McCanns not to pursue them to Portugal, to Europe, and not to win the initial injunction.

Then they must be stupid. The McCanns had no choice in the end. Amaral was goading them.

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Post by Rosie on Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:02 am

Sabot wrote:
bluj1515 wrote:
Sabot wrote:
bluj1515 wrote:
Sabot wrote:This is what worries me. These people aren't completely stupid. Amaral may be, but they aren't.

But I wonder if they have stayed away because they know they are going to lose and what they printed was illegal.
Or is it because Amaral told them to?

If you were a half decent publisher, would you print Libel, knowing that you could be held responsible?


If you think you can make a mint, and if you think it's just close enough to the line to not be libel, they sure do. Publishers do it all the time. Remember, they all seemed to expect the McCanns not to pursue them to Portugal, to Europe, and not to win the initial injunction.

Then they must be stupid. The McCanns had no choice in the end. Amaral was goading them.

He just pushed them too far, the more he got away with the more he pushed his luck, interestingly, he could not find a Portuguese publisher to publish his latest lies, wonder why that was? The publiser of "The English Gag" is Spanish! That makes me wonder if there is in fact something libellous in that book too.

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Post by Sabot on Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:08 am

The Portuguese publishers might have gotten away with it. The video added insult to injury. The interviews were the last straw.

I shouldn't think any right minded person would touch him with a barge pole now. Forget Libel. The man is obscene. Who would want to be associated with him.?

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Post by bluj1515 on Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:13 am

CdM seems to have no problem giving him a platform for his column.
And isn't their publishing arm that published the book?
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Post by Rosie on Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:50 pm

CdM was at his lavish birthday bash too, the one that cost thousands of euros to stage, despite him being past his earholes in debt.

Can you imagine what would be said by the idiot Joana Morais et al, and what would be reported in the Portuguese press if the McCanns had behaved in this reckless way? They would have been condemned to hell, but yet, it is perfectly OK for this despicable bent and corrupt criminal ex cop to do this and they say nothing! Just shows how hypocritical and biased they are, talk about subjective!

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Post by May on Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:12 pm

I agree with you there Rosie, we wouldn't have heard the end of it had Kate and Gerry been behaving in this way.
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Post by Rosie on Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:29 pm

May wrote:I agree with you there Rosie, we wouldn't have heard the end of it had Kate and Gerry been behaving in this way.

I know, it is ridiculous! The McCanns were persecuted and hounded to hell and back because they used the fund to pay just TWO mortgage payments, while they were both on extended UNPAID leave in Portugal, after Madeleine disappeared. Now the people that donated NOTHING to that fund were the ones that shouted the loudest, I have donated several times to the Find Madeleine fund (www.findmadeleine.com) and the reason I donated was because I wanted to give money so the McCanns did not have financial problems to worry about, to me it was a logical conclusion that some of that money would go to paying mortgage or renting villas etc in Portugal and anyone with any sense, would understand this.
Gerry McCann, the main bread winner, took months of UNPAID leave from his NHS job, the fact that they were able to hold their head above water during these dire times, was of course due to the fact that the McCanns did NOT hold lavish parties, did NOT default on their loans, did NOT default on their mortgage payments and did not default on paying their bills and creditors, UNLIKE Goncalo Amaral, yet the vile creatures attack the McCanns for this?

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Post by Rosie on Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:35 pm

I think that someone was in dire financial straits, looked around, saw how much money his mate was raking in after writing about the disappearance of another little girl and ..................................................................................

Also can you imagine what the vile ones would have to say if it were the McCanns asking newspapers or TV companies to pay them £80.000 for ONE interview? Yet Goncalo Amaral can do this and nothing is said.
Amaral, the bent corrupt convicted criminal ex cop who totally messed the Madeleine McCann investigation up and ever since has been making money out of his failings and this poor little girl. And his followers, say absolutely nothing? Lying hypocrites!

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Post by Peaceful1 on Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:52 am

I hope every cent,dollar, pound, euro or whatever he makes is taken right from under his big fat nose.
Then he should be locked up for life.
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