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DOES ROMIGEN HOLD THE ANSWERS TO MISSING MADELEINE

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DOES ROMIGEN HOLD THE ANSWERS TO MISSING MADELEINE

Post by Guest on Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:56 am

Does Romigen hold the answer to missing madeline and or any other missing kids for those of you who read the link in the early days i would be very intrested to here from you,with your veiws and thoughts about this strange and bizzare site.

Any one which still has back up of this disk please contact me by pm.

Should this site have been looked into more?Should the police have returned the pc?Should charges have been brought upon people involved in this?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

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Post by Rosie on Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:34 am

Do you know why Romigen was taken down?

I think this man ought to have been fully investigated there are many apparent inconsistencies, something appears odd with the whole setup! 🇳🇴

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Post by Tinkerbell43 on Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:51 am

I dont know very much about this site at all. I wish I did because imo these 2 are key to the enquiry and I do not believe they have been investigated thoroughly. Something is not right, that is for sure. As Rosie said there are toooo many inconsistencies. I read an article yesterday where Olegario De Sousa was quoted as having said "We are not saying we have NO evidence, we are just saying we do not have ENOUGH evidence".

In fact all the reports at the time Murat was made an arguido, said there was not enough evidence.

I find this strange, if a little girl has gone missing, and it is found somebody local, who is non related to the party in question has some evidence against them, then I cant for the life of me understand how it can be denied that he is not involved in some way. :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:14 am

hi girls,YES I DO KNOW WHY THE WEBSITE WAS TAKEN DOWN STILL LOOKING IN TO IT,yes you are correct in what your saying!!!!!


SOMETHING IS VERY STRANGE AND BIZZARE HERE,ALSO YOU CAN LINK ROMIGEN WITH THE SECOND LIFE WHICH LINKS TO BRAZIL................................................

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Hi Tinks and Sian

Post by Rosie on Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:52 pm

Tinkerbell43 wrote:I dont know very much about this site at all. I wish I did because imo these 2 are key to the enquiry and I do not believe they have been investigated thoroughly. Something is not right, that is for sure. As Rosie said there are toooo many inconsistencies. I read an article yesterday where Olegario De Sousa was quoted as having said "We are not saying we have NO evidence, we are just saying we do not have ENOUGH evidence".

In fact all the reports at the time Murat was made an arguido, said there was not enough evidence.

I find this strange, if a little girl has gone missing, and it is found somebody local, who is non related to the party in question has some evidence against them, then I cant for the life of me understand how it can be denied that he is not involved in some way. :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Which IMO is why he is still arguido, although I do not think he is an arguido for the suspect reason, I think he was made an arguido by the PJ to protect him! While he is arguido he does not have to answer difficult questions and he has to keep quiet, so this protects him from the press!
I believe there is a vein of corruption somewhere in the PJ , it looks like someone could be pulling his strings and it looks like that whoever is doing this inside the PJ, that their strings are being pulled too, maybe by outside forces? Who Knows?


All this bleating about what the press have done to him, what have they actually done to him? I was trying to think of what his case is against all these papers and I can't think of any, a bit of mild press harassment, but what else is there? Where is the libel? If the porn wasn't on his computer and the press said it was, he had better be able to prove that it isn't, because Malinka will then get roped into this as he will probably be called by the defense lawyers to be asked why he wiped Murat's hard drive.



If this gets to court I will be surprised. I think that Murat's lawyers will be hoping against hope that the British newspapers will settle out of court and IMO the PJ are praying for this too. If they don't I think that Murat will drop his libel actions but even if he does, the damage will already have been done, all the stuff that has no doubt already been dug up will come out and it is going to cause maximum damage to him and the PJ, whatever or however this now proceeds, there is probably going to be a furore and a press feeding frenzy and if the Portuguese think our press is bad, then they have seen nothing yet!

Tinks you are right these people are key to this whole tragic event. I believe that another Casa Pia is going to be exposed here and it could involved, high ranking politicians, police, celebrities etc.


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thanks rosie

Post by Guest on Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:25 am

The first part of the Romigen website by Carlos Sabastaio

Missing Madeline Maccann,to follow RUI PEDRO for further information please read the portuguese policey entitled the river peter.

What on earth is meant by this? :roll:

very strange transcript to be found on an openning page of a suspects website. :cyclops:

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Post by Rosie on Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:04 am

Who knows why this was there? I have read this somewhere before also, it seems really odd and one hopes that the Pj have fully investigated this.

you could imagine what would be said in the McCann's had anything like this printed on any website they were involved in? I have seen them hung, drawn and quartered on Viles for nothing!
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thanks rosie

Post by Guest on Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:22 am

exactly rosie,

thing is look at the romigen exclusivo website look at the names people are using all members of their council,if you google the names you will come up with all names of professors at Lisbon uni, two of which are professors in comunication and enginnering of transport, both named with corruption charges.

i wonder if Malinka went to Lisbon uni? This university connects to Brazil Museum, the portuguese launage museum in Sao Paulo. There were 5 sightings of Madeleine in BRAZIL.

I also notice that all sightings have taken around book festivals and have all been in a cafe,

Another thing Madeline no second life in romigen,also virtual game,also connects to Brazil,I wonder why this was never ever properlly investigated.


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Post by dianeh on Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:30 am

One would hope that the PJ have properly investigated Romigen. I read a website the other day about, and there was dispute about what was actually going on. One poster said that the website was to sell properly yet there was no property to sell, and that there had been no traffic since it was set up. Another suggested it was a front for a paedophile/porn ring (which was disputed by another poster saying that they couldnt possible know this and that this was a fabrication), and then a third said that since no one had access to the source code, none of them knew what the site truly was and it was all just speculation. But it is weird that it was set up but not used, or was it purely a timing thing. This was what I couldnt find and I looked on a couple of sites, when was it set up, how long had it been up for without being used for its purpose of selling real estate.

I read all of this on a blog (so it could be all crap), but it did raise a few questions that I hope the PJ have answers to. I dont have the link and dont have the time to find it again.

Who knows if it is even relevant? But I wonder if there is a possibility that Robert Murat is the reason that the arguido status and secrecy order has been extended and not the McCanns. Once could only hope, but then how to explain the leaks against the McCanns. Perhaps the PJ are leaving their options open, just in case one of them has a fit and accidentally confesses. Regardless, there is a lot of unanswered questions, that we dont know about, due to the secrecy laws but in all fairness, we wouldnt probably know this details if it were being investigated in Britain. And Romigen, is one of the unaswered questions.
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thanks diane

Post by Guest on Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:43 am

hi dianne

thank you,definatly no selling site,no leather jackets,no nothing.

just very strange sayings,such as one the mice have gone and all the rats have followed them we will then be able to cross the boarders and devide the money between 3 mmmmm includeing the german.written by carlos sabastio

another one written by xxl once we have the childreen on our ship,they will never be found.

but this one from carmona,i followed the trail to the blonde expensive freind to get here.

how very strange indeed,for an advertisment of a property website.

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Post by dianeh on Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:59 am

I didnt know that Romigen said these things. They do appear to be breadcrumbs. I am not saying that it is a paedophile site but breadcrumbs are left over the web which those in the know can use to track down paedophile web sites.

Did you see my posting to Gina on our blog about the paedophile/child porn bust here in Australia. It was a world wide ring, and it happened due to a hacker getting into a legit site and leaving porn on their. The paedo's then found their way there and then they were tracked by Interpol and other police and then a joint undertaking was done to arrest them. WE had around 100 here, and they are still being arrested. The police here have over 1 million photos. And there are 20 other countries involved and it looks as though 1200 people world wide will be arrested and a number of children saved. By the way, the extent of the problem is this, the site was up for 36 hours and there were 70 million hits for what is considered by our police as extreme child porn.

Anyway, the reason why I bring this up again, is that the paedo's found the site due to the breadcrumbs being left over the web, which pointed them to the site. I wasnt aware about any of this until the police made it public a couple of weeks ago. But it does make me wonder, if that is what the strange sayings are on Romigen site. And after all Malinka wiped his drive to prevent the police seeing what he had on it. A little suspicious, isnt it????
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Copy of Post from Other Thread - Thoughts on Robert Murat

Post by dianeh on Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:47 am

Mr Malinka, who moved to Portugal from Moscow seven years ago, says he spent several weeks helping Mr Murat and his German girlfriend, Michaela Walczuch, set up a property website a year ago.


This is an old article I take it, written in May or June last year. That means that the website (Romigen) was set up a year before that. Now there are questions as to whether it actually sold any real estate at all. Apparently around the time of Madeleine's disappearance it had no property for sale on it. Not too good, if been in operation after a year. Add this to Sian's posts yesterday, and we do indeed have something worthy of investigating. If the site was such a disaster, how could RM say it was still his business, and if so, why would he have been talking to Malinka about it. Seems a bit silly to keep working on a website that doesnt do any business.
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Post by dianeh on Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:57 am

Just took a look at the link you gave me. It has the first date as May 15th 2007, but this is after Madeleine was abducted. And the article by Chris (which I take to be from last year, probably june or july) refers to Romigen existing for a year.

This is a bit of a contradiction.
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thanks dianne for you reply.

Post by Guest on Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:05 am

hi dianne,no contridiction chris refers to the original one,which was removed for some reason.This one the dates has been rolled back and information removed.

On the original carlos sabastio,blogged every day up till the second day may the 3rd of may he did not and then blogged again 4th may onwards,may be chris will copy post the pages we need or send me down the file ill show you what i mean then.


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Post by dianeh on Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:24 am

I am looking forward to seeing this.

I thought that maybe the date discrepancy was a registration issue but even that is a bit strange, given the timing. Maybe even moved servers etc. Was it a complete break from the old site? And why around the time Madeleine disappeared. This is just very very strange, considering the connection to Madeleine and the dates.
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Post by Guest on Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:32 am

hi hun yes it was very very strange.im gonna copy map now dated 2nd may 07.if we transcribe the spanish words it means im here im lost.

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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:17 am

having probs getting map on here,still working on it

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Re: DOES ROMIGEN HOLD THE ANSWERS TO MISSING MADELEINE

Post by clairesy on Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:30 pm

""""""""""""""problem is the website was built a considerable time before,never has there been any property for rent or sale"""""""

So theres a strong possibility the web site is a dummy website then...and that the property theme was only adopted as a decoy for what the web site really stands for??????? :scratch:

one thing thats been bothering me lately is the news of the files being made available for the mccanns.However no word on the files of murats.Could this be because the content of them would raise an eyebrow or two??.

After reading the report on carlos' arrest over the casa pia scandal im inclined to believe that anything is possible here now.What was it carlos said to a journalist before the scandal was even unearthed?????........"they cant touch me as here are too many big people involved in this"""

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm that little sentance says it all to me...however in the end they did touch him because he spent 3 years banged up in jail. Not long enough im my opinion.And not long enough to the people he abused.

The governess of casa pia as now retired but as passed her concerns about the place and said.."i believe with out a doubt that the abuse at casa pia still goes on"

A social worker as contradicted her saying she doesn't believe it does go on and as been to the home to check. She says there is no evidence that any 'STRANGE' behavior is going on there..
STRANGELY though she didn't ask the children...instead she asked the dam staff there!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now correct me if im wrong but wasn't it the staff who were also abusing kids there????Why would this stupid social worker take there word for it???

Baffling isn't it.

But as carlos said...'there are too many big people involved'

by the way the ex governess made that statement about more abuse in October last year..only 6 months after madeleine went missing.
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Sian re your 2.03am post

Post by archer on Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:22 pm

Sorry Sian

I just wish that I could answer some of the questions that your post poses !

I know that a lot of people on this forum have grave concerns about these people, and have done since the very early days.

Trouble is we do not know if or what the pj have done or are doing about this. We can guess and are probably quite accurate in our guesses. NOTHING. :(( How can this be ? It is outrageous.

Despite their words of it being an 'open' enquiry I still believe that they have focused on Kate and Gerry - and sadly that they have not been looking for Madeleine for a long time now.

When information like this is brought to the table by 'outside' interested people we can only hope that this is where M3 are quietly earning their fees! But of course, who is it that they have to hand their information to :?: :?: It is well past time that an outside agency took control of this and waded into the pj.

IMHO They couldn't find the hole in a polo mint. :((
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Post by Tinkerbell43 on Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:13 am

I've never been comfortable with the triangle of Murat, Malinka & Michaela. I dont know much at all about the Romigen site but I have often wondered whether this site was a front for something more sinister. I'd like to trust the PJ have investigated it fully, but unfortunately I dont have an ounce of confidence they have and I cannot shake off something is being covered up. The question is, who actually is covering for who :!: :?: :!:
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Post by Guest on Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:25 am

I agree that there seems to be a hell of a lot more questions than answers about this site.

I also recall that Robert Murat had his computers returned to him and have to hope that they were well scrutinised by appropriate computer experts. Problem is, that Malinka who was instrumental in putting the site together, allegedly wiped his computers and surely, if he is the computer expert he claims to be then he would know how to do that properly and permanently.

Strange about the arson attacks on Malinkas cars. I wonder if they fit in with this mess somewhere?

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Post by Guest on Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:07 am

just wondering do you remember Antonio Tocasso and how he was dismissed by the police?you know this Bernard Applique (THE FRENCH MAN)BERnARD APPLIQUE says he hadnt visited the pdl since 1977.im not so sure about his story,bernard applique also owns cruise ships
ANTONIO ALSO NAMES 2 PEOPLE CARLOS AND ANTONIO could these two people the same antonio and carlos which is on romigen?could bernard applique be also known as xxl.

intresting look at this quote

once we have the childreen on the ship,they will never be found!written by xxl

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Post by Guest on Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:12 am

But as carlos said...'there are too many big people involved'

by the way the ex governess made that statement about more abuse in October last year..only 6 mo

nths after madeleine went missing.


exactly claire!!!!

can you remember the name of the french woman,who allowed the abuse to take place in her house?

did u know this abuse went on in 10 diffrent orphanages,not just casa pia,so i wonder which childreens orphanages these were all together.

without doubt i still think madeline is just outside lisbon A5,ON LISBON MAP

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Post by Guest on Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:47 am

you wrote this


A social worker as contradicted her saying she doesn't believe it does go on and as been to the home to check. She says there is no evidence that any 'STRANGE' behavior is going on there..
STRANGELY though she didn't ask the children...instead she asked the dam staff there!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now correct me if im wrong but wasn't it the staff who were also abusing kids there????Why would this stupid social worker take there word for it???

Baffling isn't it.


i now answer to this

i think you should read the article again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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question freinds

Post by Guest on Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:32 am

does anyone think theres any link beween casapia,romigen and maddie?

sorry not a nice subject but im affraid i have to ask!

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