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MADELEINE EXCLUSIVE: ALL THREE CHILDREN DRUGGED

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MADELEINE EXCLUSIVE: ALL THREE CHILDREN DRUGGED

Post by christabel on Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:21 am

MADELEINE EXCLUSIVE: ALL THREE CHILDREN DRUGGED


MISSING: Madeleine McCann

Sunday October 11,2009

By James Murray

The kidnapper of Madeleine McCann drugged her and her twin brother and sister so they would all be quiet while she was snatched.


A duplicate key may also have been used to gain entrance to the holiday apartment where the children were sleeping, say investigators.

It means the monster is still a threat to children living or holidaying on Portugal’s Algarve and must be caught urgently as he is highly likely to reoffend.

Former police detectives David Edgar and Arthur Cowley have spent months re-analysing every shred of evidence.

They are convinced the ­abductor went to the family’s apartment on May 3 2007 fully prepared with sufficient drugs, probably ­chloroform, to knock out all three children.

The fact that Sean and Amelie, then just 18 months old, failed to wake when the alarm was raised, nor even as they were taken to another apartment in the cold night air, has persuaded the detectives that they, too, must have been drugged.

Had the twins been tested for drugs immediately, any ­medication used could have been established, making it easier to identify the kidnapper, but vital time was lost.

Chloroform can be made ­easily and other sedatives, such as the horse tranquilliser ketamine, are commonly in circulation in the criminal underworld.

Even now, however, experts say there may be forensic clues on clothing or bedding which could yield a breakthrough.

The Sunday Express can further reveal that the McCanns’ private detectives are working on a solid theory about exactly how Madeleine was abducted.

Just as television investigator Donal MacIntyre suggested in this paper three weeks ago, they believe there was a dry run prior to the kidnap that fateful night at apartment 5a of the Ocean Club resort in Praia da Luz.

While checking the layout of the apartment the night before, the kidnapper probably woke Sean, who in turn woke Madeleine. In the morning she had told Kate and Gerry she was frightened.

The fact that the children woke up is thought to have persuaded the kidnapper to use knock-out drugs when he returned the next night to take Madeleine, three.

On the question of the duplicate key, holidaymakers often left front door keys under the doormats during the day.
A theory emerging is that the kidnapper had a duplicate key to apartment 5a, which could have been used on the night to enter by the front door.

Mr Edgar and Mr Cowley do not believe Madeleine was taken through an open window as it would have been awkward, time consuming and there were no forensic clues left behind.

It is far more likely, they say, that he simply walked out of the front door with her in his arms. It had been thought that the front door was double locked, making it impossible to open from the inside, but this doubt falls away if there was a duplicate key.

The theory suggests the ­kidnapper had been targeting the apartment for a long time and had a detailed knowledge of the lock system.

With the front door unlocked, it is easy to simply pull a latch across to open it from the inside.

Another possibility is that the front door was not double-locked when Kate and Gerry left through the unlocked patio doors to join their seven friends at the resort’s tapas bar some 30 metres from their apartment.

Meanwhile it emerged yesterday that the parents of a two-year-old girl who has gone missing in New Zealand are being ­supported by the ­McCanns.

Aisling Symes vanished from a relative’s house in an Auckland suburb on Monday.

Her mother Angela had been close by, standing beside a washing machine.

There have been reports that the girl was later seen with a woman of Asian appearance.

Detectives believe she was ­abducted. Despite repeated ­appeals for help their searches have so far drawn a blank.
Kate and Gerry McCann said their “thoughts and prayers” were with the family.

The little girl’s father, Allan Symes, who is originally from County Waterford in Ireland, made an emotional plea for her return, saying: “These recent days have proven to be the most harrowing of our lives; no sleep and we feel like we’re barely ­existing, just surviving every ­moment, not knowing where ­Aisling is.”

It has also emerged that police in Sweden are trying to find a girl said to bear a resemblance to Madeleine after a photograph was posted on a website.

However, she does not appear to have the distinctive mark Madeleine has in her right eye
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Post by vee8 on Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:39 pm

I thought the twins had been tested for drugs, and the results were negative?
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Post by Pedro Silva on Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:11 pm

Sunday Express also says (together with the Madeleine exclusive above): McCann´s detectives believes kidnapper may have had key. A duplicate key may also have been used to gain entrance to the holiday apartment where the children were sleeping, say investigators.

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Post by maria on Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:40 pm

This is my opinion from day1. I always said that there was NOT a way that a child taken from bed into the cold breezy night would NOT wake up. And both sightings, Jane's and Smith's, refer a sound assleep child IN LIGHT CLOTHING. I also said that the open window was NOT to get in or out, it was to get rid of ANY residual odour in the apartment.
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Post by Rosie on Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:50 pm

I don't think they were tested until a few weeks later and before the baying mob start, it is actually a matter of record that Gerry McCann requested that the children were tested for drugs immediately, but was told by the Portuguese police that it was NOT necessary.

So that us another fallacy put to bed!

Apart from that, the using of some kind of sedative is something that I have always said happened. I have thought of chloroform, it does smell, in fact it honks to high heaven (just like Amaral), this is one reason that I have thought may be the reason for the open window, to allow the odour of whatever was used to sedate Madeleine to dissipate and if it was chloroform, it would not have taken very long, especially as the main source was obviously removed along with Madeleine.

Again the Sunday Express has come up with something we on this forum have already discussed in great detail, along with the window, but I find this report sketchy and lacking proper cohesive detail that may make what they have printed work. We have already covered the key, we know that the key was a copy and we know that it was a security key, what we have been calling for and what Amaral should have done immediately, is to find out from the apartment owner how many *official* copies of this key are in circulation and if they are all accounted for, especially in the night of May 3rd 2007.

The next step would have been to discover ALL of those that have had access to keys to the apartment, eg cleaners, maintenance, managers.


  • Discover ALL who had access to the apartment
  • Discover ALL those who had access to the keys to the apartment
  • Is there a booking out process for keys that tell who had what key and at what time and for how long?
  • Were any keys gone for a long time?
  • Were any keys reported missing?
  • Were background checks done on recent occupants of that apartment?

These are just a very small matters that *SHOULD* have been done *IMMEDIATELY* but never were. These are the matters that should have been overseen by Goncalo Amaral had he bothered to attend the scene.
Amaral should have made the scene a crime scene then, NOT THREE MONTHS LATER!
Amaral should have set up an incident room at the complex *IMMEDIATELY* and stopped everyone leaving and the matters of the keys should have been investigated immediately.

Not bloody rocket science is it? Surely Amaral could have managed this? Why did Amaral make every single mistake he could possibly make? Mistakes even a first day rookie detective would NOT have made?

To me it looks like Madeleine was targeted, (but I believe any blonde child who was in that apartment at that specific time would have been targeted).
They abducted Madeleine and because they knew the parents were eating their evening meal a short distance away, it was done to make it look like they were involved. I believe someone intentionally framed the McCanns and did things in that apartment from leaving the window open maybe, to weeks later planting evidence that the dogs would react to in the apartments and the car. It happened and the planting if evidence happened and whoever planted it had the foresight not to plant too much, but what they did was classical, they over-egged the situation and planted it in many too many different places, making it look like some macabre game of hide the body took place, totally ridiculous.

Just last week on this forum we highlighted huge and serious flaws with the video recordings of the Eddie and Keela indicating positives.

I believe that the person that planted this evidence also had a plan to follow up the sniffer dog findings, but because they did not understand false positives or the fact that any positives indicated by these dogs would need to be corroborated and because absolutely NO corroborating DNA was found, his their plan failed.

What I find totally bemusing is that Goncalo Amaral was the person in charge of this investigation, yet he NEVER even met Kate and Gerry face to face. He never sat in on one interview with an official translator, well let's face it, Goncalo Amaral, never did anything very much, except to take three and four hours long lunches and drive his police car, with his little girl in it, after drinking alcohol and decided to make the scene a crime scene, only after three months had elapsed!

Something else that needs to be investigated is who stayed in those apartments during those three months? Who else would have access to them and who could have planted false evidence?

Look at the way the dog reacted in that car park and how it was made to look, someone should doorstep Martin Grime and ask him about that investigation in the car park and the apartments and while they are at it, could they please ask Martin Grime, how Eddie picked up cuddle cat in the living area of the apartment, tossed it up in the air and ran off, showing total disinterest in the toy and then some time later (actual time elapsed cannot be determined on the video because it has obviously been tampered with) Eddie is seen barking a positive at a cupboard and Martin Grime appears, opens the cupboard and there inside, low and behold is cuddle cat! Martin Grime picked cuddle cat up and shows it to the camera as if it was some damning piece of evidence that his dog had just found, when he knew perfectly well it wasn't and so do we.

Please any journalist after the real truth, please ask Martin Grime why he did this and why he thinks Eddie indicated a positive to cuddle cat then and NOT before, when he was playing with it and throwing it up in the air.

Also where is Raymond [not dead yet] Hewlett? Anything done about what this man knows?

Don't forget that Raymond Hewlett fits the MO and he has actually used chemicals to subdue his victims before.........Anyone following this up at all?

Anyone following up how his partner actually strongly resembles the e-fit picture of the 'person' seen carrying Madeleine away, had she been easily disguised as a man?

Anyone taken the dogs into the houses, villas and grounds of EVERY single nearby residence?

Anyone investigated if any person or persons have been running an adoption agency and live in or nearby to PDL?

In fact has anyone gone over exactly what Goncalo Amaral did during this investigation?

As an side putrefaction does not start to take place until at least 2 to 3 days after someone dies, so what exactly was Eddie barking a positive to, THREE whole months later in those apartments? Especially 5a?

Something stinks there and it is NOT those apartments or the car, this has the whiff of corruption and witness framing about it!

More things we have noted about those *staged* positives on the sniffer dog videos too!

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Post by Rosie on Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:07 pm

Until the above matters and more besides are cleared up, I do not think we will discover what happened to Madeleine.

When are the Portuguese government going to order that something is done about Goncalo Amaral? When are they going to insist that Amaral is arrested, made a witness and forced to answer the great many pertinent questions about this investigation?

I believe that this is not a matter of *IF*, I believe this is a matter of *WHEN* this is done, so it may as well be done now and then perhaps, the investigators investigating the *ABDUCTION* of Madeleine McCann, will be able to start piecing together an accurate picture about what happened that night and be able to trace who took Madeleine and to where and to where she is now!

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Post by Catkins on Mon Oct 12, 2009 2:29 am

Totally agree with you Rosie...........its a damned disgrace...and all at poor Madeleine's expense !!!
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Post by Pedro Silva on Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:24 am

Shame on you Gonzo.

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Post by Rosie on Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:10 am

The Portuguese government have to act to do something about Goncalo Amaral, that man has got away with far too much already! He ran a grossly incompetent investigation and as time passes, the true extent of his incompetence is becoming known and it is truly staggering. It is hard to imagine that a person who is said to have this much experience can somehow make just about every single mistake there was to make - how come? Defies logic and it seems very odd to me!

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