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Post by Rosie on Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:50 am

Just thought I would let you all know that today in my absence, I was banned from the Missing Madeleine forum, which I ostensibly joined to try and reason with Mr Tony Bennett, in order to try and make him see that what he, Debbie Butler, Grenville Green, Helene Davies-Green, et al have done and that no matter, what you think and feel, the way they were going about things, is totally and utterly wrong, in fact, I believe what they have done and continue to do is indefensible.

I was only there for a little while when an administrator called Ambersuz popped up and warned me, for what? Oh because apparently, I did not say "hello" and told Tony Bennett that what he and Butler are doing is wrong. I used firm words yes, but I was neither rude, or abusive, in fact the only abuse on there was thrown at me by a silly little poster called Autumn, in fact, it was Autumn that was warned about her behaviour.

Well to day enter a poster that we all know "Ironside" and this was the post he made

IRONSIDE wrote:Good morning Granny, I had no idea that Rosiepops was a member of your forum, the evil she has posted on other sites about my dying mother is enough to ask you to please remove my membership from your forum. Thank you.


First off if Ironside was so upset about me being on there, why did he not simply not post, or just leave the forum? Why did he have to make a big show of himself and his leaving?

I would like to make it known that Ironside is an utter LIAR. I have never, ever not one single time made any posts about his dying mother and for him to use his mother in this way, to apply emotional blackmail to get me banned from a poxy little internet forum is utterly despicable, I think Ironside is sick beyond belief. Ironside should examine his own mind and his conscience because he KNOWS that I have never once said anything bad about his mother and neither would I. My conscience is clear.

I make Ironside this challenge:

PRODUCE THE POSTS WHERE I HAVE SAID ANYTHNG BAD ABOUT YOUR MOTHER IRONSIDE AND PROVE THAT YOU ARE NOT A SNIVELLING LYING LITTLE COWARD THAT WOULD USE YOUR OWN MOTHER TO GET SYMPATHY FROM PEOPLE ON AN INTERNET FORUM!

I have taken Ironside to task, yes I have, but not once have I said anything bad abut his mother.

Ironside himself brought his own mother into this, explaining how he travelled over to the UK to visit his mother in hospital. He then relayed how apparently he quizzed his mother's consultant at her bedside about Gerry McCann and Madeleine and that apparently this consultant had said he did not believe the McCanns blah blah (something like that, I have forgotten what Ironside was waffling about, it was so long ago!) I told Ironside that I did not believe that a hospital consultant would be so unprofessional as to enter a conversation like this at the bedside of a patient and about a colleague and I do not believe that conversation ever took place either, I think Ironside is lying about that too! Now come on, how many consultants do you know that would do this? It is a figment of Ironside's overactive imagination.

Ironside talks utter boring bilge, which he copies and pastes from all over the place, he does not like me because he knows I have seen right through him. the only posts he ever makes which are his own, is when he is making the "oh woe is me posts" where he is threatening to leave the forum, he really enjoys the responses he gets. He hardly ever posts on a forum, then appears out of the blue when he notices someone on there he doesn't like and does not want to be on there, or he always appears in the middle of controversy, turns it all around to be about him, then plays for peoples sympathy and pity, those of you who know him, think about how many times you have seen him do this about someone or some thing or another. I have seen him do it several times on the old Dx blog, I have seen him do it on the 3arguidos and I have even seen him do something like this on the Mad Axe murderers forum, sucking up to him and apologising for bring trouble to the Mad Axe murders forum and then he said he will leave and then sat back and waited for all the people to come on and beg him not to go, a few did, but then some others came back and told hi m to grow up and stop asking for pity, if he wanted to go, then go, if he didn't then stay.
And now here he is today on the MM forum, entered a thread that someone unfairly made about me because it was based on a complete lie and was forced to edit her own post and remove the lies and the personal attack on me. What did that have to do with Ironside? Nothing, I have not even spoken to him for , must be around 18 months or so, so what is his problem? I certainly have not spoken to him on MM, I did not even know he was a member on there.

Ironside was sent by Tony Bennett to get me off of the forum, because Bennett knows that he cannot answer me, because he knows that he is utterly wrong and he knows I was going to dismantle his 60 Reasons, one by one and challenge him to answer me after each single one and he did not want me to do this, Tony Bennett was running scared and so he and Ironside decided to try and get rid of me, they succeeded on that forum, but it will not stop me from totally dismantling Bennett's spurious ever decreasing Reasons!

The Missing Madeleine forum is a joke, they banned me for absolutely nothing, yet a man that has caused nothing but trouble on there and who *WILL* finish that forum off in exactly the same way he was responsible for getting the 3 arguidos investigated, we ll he is still there and he is still there after he grossly insulted a member on MM, after correcting the poster's grammar. Bennett was rude, insulting and condescending to another member and the other member wanted to officially complain about him and so did several of the other members. Yet Bennett is still there.

Missing Madeleine admin, is a complete joke they are scared to get rid of Bennett, in case they lose posters like Laffin Assasin, who contributes nothing but drunken abuse and threats and libel. LA and Bennett et al are going to bring that forum down, it is just a matter of time.

Meantime the members there can all make boo hoo posts to Ironside " oh please don't go Ironside"
Please stay please stay, God what a pathetic joke, that is not a forum, it is a playground and Bennett is using it to show case his libel against the McCanns and a PHOTOGRAPHIC journalist, who did NOT write the story about Debbie Butler.
Bennett is just using that forum and once he has managed to close that one down, he will move on to another. GOOD in time hopefully, he will close them all down.

Admin on the MM has said, they had people sending them PMs threatening to leave if I stayed there, I think that admin are exaggerating, possibly they received a couple, but did MM admin know that I have received about 17 emails into the j4madeleinemccan@live.co.uk account, which congratulated me on taking Bennett on and showing him up for what he actually is? And some of them are antis, who do not like Bennett and Butler and think they have brought nothing but trouble and are worried they will lose that forum too. Oh yes admin on the MM, really I have. Those people think that Bennett and Butler overstepped the mark and should NEVER had gone to Rothley, in fact, I believe this is by far the opinion by the vast majority.

Yep any members on the Missing Madleine forum, be careful you may get banned for doing absolutely nothing, like I did. What a joke!


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Re: I Am Banned From The Missing Madeleine Forum

Post by Guest on Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:00 am

Rosie, can I post what you just said on MM and then resign from there in support of you?

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Post by Guest on Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:10 am

Its so obvious who is pulling the strings over there and lessons havent been learned, bennett caused the demise of the 3as and MM will follow in its wake imo.

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Re: I Am Banned From The Missing Madeleine Forum

Post by Rosie on Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:12 am

You can post it on there Mod by all means, but you don't have to resign and thanks for your support, as ever you are a star, reasonable and grounded - thanks again. thankyou

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Post by Guest on Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:18 am

Posted for you here: http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/main-maddie-thread-latest-news-f1/rosiepops-s-forum-inciting-members-to-stalk-and-harass-people-distributing-leaflets-t4409-135.htm#85094

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Post by Rosie on Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:19 am

All I wanted to do was to debate face to face 'so-to-speak' with Tony Bennett, without having to forum hop.

Bennett is only big when he thinks no one can answer him back. Bennett is a classical bully, he can give it out but he cannot take it.

Look at all he has done to the McCanns, in real life and electronically, yet as soon as he got some back, he started swinging around wildly and complaining, dragging other people and other forums into it, he managed to get one closed down and now he is doing the same to MM. Wrote letters to the PCC, stopped a journalist earning his living.

It is all just a pathetic joke! Bennett is a loser, a bullyboy coward. He can only debate if he knows he is in the majority.

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Post by Guest on Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:26 am

I dont think bennett has the means or intellect required of posters who genuinely dispute his so called reasons and that is why you can only be part of his cult if you accept his and amarals so called facts!

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Post by vee8 on Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:33 am

Personally I think you are better off out of it Rosie. You could never stoop down to their intelectual level anyway.
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Post by Rosie on Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:49 am

You are probably right Vee, however, I wanted the chance to face Bennett and his reasons down, after all isn't he the one that keeps saying that no one has disputed them?
Strange when I do, he has me vapourised Laffin

I see the other little no mark wannabe pretendy solicitor has surfaced over on MM, she is so predictable, all she wants is an argument, she exists for no other reason.

Strange thing she keeps accusing me of having different IDs, if I was so inclined, wouldn't I have joined MM under a different name and avoided a ban, that was always going to come?

I have always made it plain who I am, even when I posted on the 3arguidos, I always tried to remember to sign off as, 'Rosie' and would then go and repeat the post on the blog, to ensure they knew who I was.

And honestly, I do hope Viv blushed when she wrote that, here are a few of the names Viv has used:


  • Plainwaters
  • Viv
  • Felicity
  • Bedrest
  • Josie Public
  • On a Clear Day
  • Penelope
  • Lady Fairweathers

etc etc it goes on and on and on, in fact Viv, had so many different IDs on the DX and because each time she got banned from there she came back as someone else, the DX took the unusual step of banning her IP range! She then went berserk and sent eh DX staff abusive emails, but they still would not have her back, so she went and opened her now defunct blog!

Viv is a joke! Laughing Laughing Laughing (With a very poor memory)

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Post by calcite51 on Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:55 am

Rosie, Ironside is sick - on Joana he posted that a) Elizabeth Smart was not kidnapped - she ran away from home. I'm sure no fourteen year old girl would pick someone like her abductor to run away from home. The guy is scary!! b) Jaycee's stepfather and maybe the mother are involved in Jaycee's kidnapping. Where he got that bit of inside information - God knows because I have not heard that reported anyone else but on Joana's blog c) the McCanns are guilty. Now can, you see why he was banned from 3A's?? He's a timebomb with no brains.

- so he's a fool and an idiot - you can't reason with someone that is so
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Post by Rosie on Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:22 am

Re: Rosiepops's Forum - Inciting Members to Stalk and Harass People Distributing Leaflets

Photon Today at 9:35 pm


Rosiepops wrote: What a joke!

Indeed, you are Rosiepops. I'd like to share an astute observation from a commentator from Viv's blog, who first encountered Rosie and her crew (Mandz, Christabel, Tinkerbel, Alroy, Mum21 et al) on the Daily Express HYS forum - as did Viv, Ironside and I (and others too numerous.....):

docmac wrote:
Rosiepops the retired nurse. She worked in the body fluids and DNA ward. Prior to that she was a lawyer, financial planner, accountant, psychologist, media specialist, PR consultant, call centre manager, IT consultant and a tireless campaigner for the British National Party. She also won the world speed-typing championships 3 years running and retired undefeated. She is currently a tea lady but still manages to find time to dabble on the computer in between providing cuppas for her superiors.

http://justiceformaddie.blogspot.com/2008/01/more-rosiepops-rubbish-on-lcn-dna.html




Oh dear Photon (Polly Drop Drawers) is that really the best you can do? Oooo I am so gutted you put that up about me, I am in tears boo hoo , I don't think I can post anymore tonight, oh dear I am going to bed crying now. walkinghomecrying

Grow up you silly cow.

Quite what the filthy Photon thinks she is proving with that post written by someone else about me? I mean what exactly does it prove?

Docmac always did write a pack of lies about me, I used to laugh at him. It really was the only thing to do. Laffin Laffin Laffin

To say that I am a campaigner for the BNP is one huge joke, but you carry on Photon because you really are a joke and a rather silly one. Still you could always ask your mate Bennett, I understand his name is on the BNP members register. Laughing Laughing Laughing


Only Photon Aka Dr_Val could produce such a meaningless silly lot of childish tit for tat drivel like that, after sending that despicable email full of swearing and offensive comments to Majic. That's something I would never have done, not even thought of doing. Photon is most likely behind that email that Bennett was ranting about, this is about her level, but if she is, she will be found out. Photon Polly Drop Drawers, is not half as clever as she likes people to think she is. mental

This is what she, Viv and Ironside and docmac used to do, conjure up a load of silly lies in order to get people banned from the DX, it was just a game to them, Madeleine has never featured, they never cared about her and they resent others that really do care about her and her family, and they have proved this repeatedly over the past couple of years, never more so with her filthy antics when she was mod of the 3arguidos.

I have never swanned around the internet pretending to be something I am not. What are you Photon? Someone who is paid by the British taxpayer and who uses our money and our resources, to blog out of hate forums all day, while you are supposed to be working. You make me sick.
I see your presence on that forum is probably going to be the last nail in its coffin, you and Bennett and the whingeing loopy brainless Ironside.

You are a complete joke.
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Post by Rosie on Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:32 am

calcite51 wrote:Rosie, Ironside is sick - on Joana he posted that a) Elizabeth Smart was not kidnapped - she ran away from home. I'm sure no fourteen year old girl would pick someone like her abductor to run away from home. The guy is scary!! b) Jaycee's stepfather and maybe the mother are involved in Jaycee's kidnapping. Where he got that bit of inside information - God knows because I have not heard that reported anyone else but on Joana's blog c) the McCanns are guilty. Now can, you see why he was banned from 3A's?? He's a timebomb with no brains.

- so he's a fool and an idiot - you can't reason with someone that is so

You know, why doesn't this surprise me about Ironside, this is exactly what he used to do on the DX and then when people answered him and rebutted his silly long winded cut and pastes and meaningless unfounded claptrap, he used to get upset and threaten to flounce off (I wonder if he is related to Brenda?) And then after threatening to leave, he would sit back and lap up all the posts asking him not to go.

Ironside is such a liar BILLY no mates Pinnochio he has to threaten to leave in order for people to beg him not to go, in order to feel good about himself.

But in all these forums he threatened to leave, must total around 7 times I have seen him do it, he has NEVER once carried his threat out. notonyournelly

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Post by Tinkerbell43 on Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:46 am

PMSL, she flatters Vile, Vile didnt have any posters capable of astute observation lol! the mere fact they didnt see through Vile shows how astute they were, Laffin Laffin Laffin
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Post by Rosie on Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:57 am

And where is Ironside after he started all of this unnecessary nonsense? I think he has slinked off in embarrassment watchurstep

He will probably be back tomorrow apologising profusely for causing all that bother and offering to leave the forum, because of all the trouble he caused. tissues

Of course he wont leave, he will just sit back and wait for people to come on and beg him not to go. gagging

Still I not only blame him, I blame that brainless admin 'Ambersluice or something, she could not admin her way out of a paper bag baghead Someone should inform Ambersluice, it is customery, to actually wait until someone has committed a big misdemeanor , before actually banning them (like Bennett did earlier today). I tis really not very helpful when you ban people for nothing, still, if it made her day and cheered her up, give her a chance to throw her power hungry weight about. I am so glad I could oblige. highfive Trouble is, everyone is laughing at her and her fourm now. MM the place for serious debate? No chance, you MUST only follow the leader on there and who is the leader? Yes no other than Tony Bennett. terrific

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Post by Rosie on Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:12 am

Tinkerbell43 wrote:PMSL, she flatters Vile, Vile didnt have any posters capable of astute observation lol! the mere fact they didnt see through Vile shows how astute they were, Laffin Laffin Laffin


Would that be the astute observation by Docmac and Viv, who accused me of being a paedophile and a terrorist, or something and then because they thought I was disabled with arthritis, they said they would organise a wreath for me when I died?

Not to mention when I mentioned I was upset about having to have my dear old dog put to sleep, Viv kindly informed everyone on her blog that I was a psychopath that bullied my family and killed my dog?

Is that the astuteness of Viv that Photon is talking about?

Still the fact that Photon could see no wrong in those comments is no surprise at all, especially not now that we know all about her loose elastic vile evil comments to the very decent Majic.

And all this involves Photon on the MM how?

Wind your long neck in Photon and mind your own business, Lord knows you have enough of your own problems to worry about. Stalking, Harassing, libel, sending threatening mail and emails.

Run along now, there's a good doctor, before you get yourself in even more bother! kissmyar*e

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Post by bluj1515 on Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:12 am

Rosie, bravo for all of this and everything you have said there and here. It is only a matter of time before Bennett has control of that board and does a leaflet drop at the twins' school and yet another forum goes down in public anger and humiliation.
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Post by Rosie on Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:19 am

bluj1515 wrote:Rosie, bravo for all of this and everything you have said there and here. It is only a matter of time before Bennett has control of that board and does a leaflet drop at the twins' school and yet another forum goes down in public anger and humiliation.

Thank you Bluj, and you are absolutely right, it is just a matter of time before that forum bites the dust on the floor of the Houndation. Especially when they have admin who ban people for doing absolutely nothing wrong, just because a poster turns up crying and threatening to leave if nasty big bad Rosiepops is allowed to post there. Boo Hoo Boo Hoo My name is Ironside and I cry a lot and get people banned to make me fell better. tissues tissues tissues

Talk about being scared of rational argument and debate!

It is becoming clear, no one is allowed to post there unless you believe 100% in their leader Tony Bennett, who is apparently pulling all the strings of the MM forum and what he says goes, he only has to stamp his feet and they all come running. Yes Tony, no Tony, 3 bags full Tony.

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Post by Cath on Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:38 am

Actually you can go for saying she's intelligent....as thats insulting my intelligence!

Yes well your history too for that remark!

Ambersuz is in a good mood it seems. She's banned two more posters.
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Post by Rosie on Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:14 am

Cath wrote:Actually you can go for saying she's intelligent....as thats insulting my intelligence!

Yes well your history too for that remark!

Ambersuz is in a good mood it seems. She's banned two more posters.
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She is showing what a good administrator she is, banning anyone that doesn't agree with her and her hero, soon there will only be Bennett apparatchiks left! Still that is the way that Mien Furor Bennett likes it!
As for insulting her intelligence Laffin Laffin Laffin No Ambersuz, you really have to have some before it can be insulted.

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Post by Rosie on Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:46 am

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Alpine Aster Today at 12:05 am


Deuce wrote:My leader?

I think it is ironic that Rosie is judged by some posts aboy people who have been worse than that to her.

Decent people ambersuz? I consider myself a decent person. But how you could have the audacity to judge supporters of Rosie as being indecent when I see what has been written about us McCann suporters on here and thats just a scratch on the surface when considering what has been said about an innocent couple, called Kate and Gerry McCann.

My friend showed me the letters he got from the government and the content of which was less than complimentary about the behaviour of the Foundation and 3A's/ There is new legislation out next month which will help shut sites where people use forums to cause pain to innocent people.

It isn't Rosie or Vee8 shutting sites. It's sites that do the damage themselves which will find themselves on the wrong side of the law.





I do not know Rosiepops and I don't want too

I don't know you either and do you always make long winded posts about things you know nothing about?


but I

Yes there is always a "but I" with people like you, you know nothing, "but" it is not gong to stop you giving an opinion (which no body really wants, except maybe your resident 'drunk,' halfwit Laffin Assasin, who thinks everyone wants to sue him! Laughing

have heard about her and saw for myself since joining this Forum how rude she was, I saw a Post that she wrote and I was shocked at the venom that she spat out. I actually saw for myself just what People said about her was true.

So come on then Ms "I don't know, but I am going to join in and give my vitriolic ten penneth worth", feel free to produce that post where I was rude on that forum (MM) and how shocked you were at my venom (hissss - I do not spit - that is a lie, I say, a lie!) Anyway, please produce the post of venom, so we can all judge. TIP: It - is - not - venom - because - you - disagree - with - me - or - I - you. OK? Understand?

The 3A's was not a nasty Forum

Laffin Laffin Laffin Laffin Laffin Laffin Laffin Laffin Laffin Laffin

whether you think so or not,so are you saying the your friend has Letter's from the Government about the 3A's and they have the power to shut down Forum's that are nasty to innocent

Clue

That forum is already closed and under investigation and so to are all those members who committed libel and slander and who issued threats.
Understand Laffin?
Another clue: we are not just saying we have a letter, we do actually have the letter.
Understand Laffin?

People,so that mean's that Rosiepops site will be closed too then.

Er no it doesn't, because we practice free speech, but we do not libel, slander or intimidate people and we cannot be closed for speaking the truth, Tony Bennett and the 3 Arguidos and the Madeleine Foundation and also the Missing Madeleine forum, now that is a different matter entirely. Libel, slander, threats, incitement to hatred of a person or group, it goes on and on and on.

Anyway you little liar Aster, I thought you knew nothing of me of our forum? See you people are so bent, you cannot even lie straight in bed!


No one can stop People talking its called freedom of speech and if a Forum gets shut down People will still find a way to discuss this Case.

I think you will find that making libellous comments and committing slander and incitement to hatred, does not come under the auspices of free speech!


After all the Forum's that have be born because of Madeleine McCann, because People wanted to discuss to the Case,but it seems to me to certain People this really is not about Madeleine all this arguing and bitterness that is going on, but certain People who really don't give a dam about Madeleine its really all about themselves and their egotistic Personalties.

Well there is the first true thing you said, this is not about Madeleine. Debbie Butler, Grenville Green and Helene Davies-Green, shoving hate leaflets through the doors of innocent peoples neighbours has *** all to do with justice, or Madeleine. Upsetting the twins in their own home, where they have a right to feel safe and secure, has nothing to do with Madeleine. For the twins to start school after their entire village being hate leafleted by vile evil creatures of the night, who took their vile campaign of hatred right into the very heart of their home and right into the heart of their community - has NOTHING to do with abducted Madeleine.

"It is the product of some very sick minds, wannabe attention seeking fantasists." That was taken from one email I received yesterday, pointing out that this person was sickened to the pit of his stomach by Bennett and Butler's antics and he told me he is an anti. However, not for much longer I don't think!


If you do not like the bitterness and the arguing, why did you enter it, especially as you "claim" not to know me? Methinks you are telling whopping porkie pies again, you love it, which is why you thought you would treat us all to your meaningless sanctimonious clap trap, in order to try and ingratiate yourself with Ambersluice (so she wont ban you) and your leader Tony Bennett. But hey don't worry Aster whatsit, you are safe - for now, but how long 'now' lasts, depends entirely on the weasel Bennett.



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Post by Pedro Silva on Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:12 pm

I just say this, the more anti´s forums or blogs are closed, the better.

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Post by rosemary on Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:16 pm

Rosie a word of praise..

You are one of those very rare people who can lie down with dogs and NEVER get up with fleas. I applaud you and I envy you. You have tremendous spirit and integrity and tenacity and I do believe I have never read a posting of yours which has ever been patronising..unless it was with tongue in cheek!

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Post by Jayelles on Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:11 pm

Rosiepops, please remember that this group of people is small and that their behaviour is reviled by the vast majority of decent people. They are sad people with sad little lives who inexplicably (to us) try to make themselves feel better by attacking a couple who desperately want to find their missing little girl. Maybe that's the best defence mechanism they have right now.

I notice that they do a classic troll thing which is to make vague and unsubstantiated accusations against you. Trolls do this because they know there are sheeples who suffer from "no smoke without fire" syndrome who have neither the wit nor character to question them. However, those of us with a brain aren't fooled by this.

It's not nice when someone makes a false accusation against you. I've been there and I know how horrible it is when you feel the need to clear your name. However, I've learned that the people who do this have usually got bigger problems of their own and if they weren't picking on you, it would be someone else.

As a teacher, I encounter kids with issues in their lives and these often manifest themselves in their behaviour in the classroom. One thing I've learned is that it's never personal - i.e. they don't kick off because of me. If a pupil is obnoxious in my class, they are inevitably being obnoxious (I find usually more so) in colleagues' classes and also in the playground and probably at home too.

I'd wager that the Photons, Ironsides and Tony Bennetts of the world have more wide-ranging problems than their behaviour towards the McCanns and those of us who support the search for Madeleine. My guess is that they have personal problems, social difficulties, problems with relationships and a general lack of direction in their lives. If they addressed these, they'd probably wisen up to their behaviour towards the McCanns.

At the end of the day, they are wallowing in their own mess. If they want to stay there and wallow, why not just let them? I guarantee they won't be happy people :-)

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Post by Rosie on Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:01 pm

Hi Jayelles

I understand what you are saying, I also know that you are talking perfect sense. I am not angry that Ironside has chosen to lie about me, in fact, it does not surprise me that he did this, as it is not the first time he has pulled such a stunt. What has surprised me though, is that Ironside chose to use his mother in all of this and I wonder what depths his mind has sunk to, that it would think that, that was an OK thing to do? I think it is the accusation that I would stoop so low as to use Ironside's mother, that really angered me, not the banning, to be honest I expected it and knew it would come, after all when I had first joined their forum, I was warned by "Ambersluice" that I would be "thrown off" because apparently I had not said "hello"! mental The fact that I was having a reasonable, calm and rational debate was apparently ignored and somehow the "cerebrally" challenged Ms Sluice, managed to morph that debate into me "throwing my weight around"!

There is no reasoning with people like Ambersluice they are just not right between the ears, so I knew it was only a matter of time.

I object though, to being lied about and made to look as if I would say something about a dying woman, who I had never met - quite frankly, the person with a problem there is Ironside, who of course knows perfectly well that I have not done this and actually thinks nothing of debasing himself and using his mother, to get at me and to get me thrown off an internet chat forum! Is that the depths that Ironside and his ilk have really sunk to? Has the need to see two innocent people thrown into prison for something they have not done and the twins taken into care, grown so powerful and strong that it would prompt someone to use their own kindred like this?

Ironside really needs to do some tough thinking and needs to ask of himself what kind of person he has become. I always knew he was some kind of weirdo, with oddly bizarre beliefs, but even I did not think he would use his own mother in such a way!

The latest in Ironside's portfolio of oddities, is that apparently Elizabeth Smart had something to do with her own abduction and the parents of Jaycee Lee Dugard, had somethng to do with Jaycee's abduction.

Jaycee and her daughters and Jaycee's family have a massive mountian to climb, it is going to be hard enough for them all, without the pathetic idiots like Ironside, spreading their unfounded gossip and nonsense, making it all much worse for them, than it is already. Still what's new? This is how the Ironsides, Bennetts and Butlers of the internet have behaved over this past 2 years!


How sick, bitter and twisted is that? He obviously recognises that if this could happen to Elizabeth and Jaycee (and many others), then it has happened to Madeleine and her parents too, and instead of admitting that he has got this whole thing horribly wrong, he sets about accusing, Elizabeth, Jaycee and their parents of all kinds of unutterable things, in order to free his mind up, so he can carry on in his grotesquely warped mind, the overwhelming need to persecute, intimidate, bully and harass the McCanns, without feeling guilty about what he is doing.

I recognise this in Ironside and I recognise that need in a lot of antis (although not all), so you are right Jayelles, this probably does stem from some deeply buried psychological flaw in their own personalities.

I joined that forum, because Tony Bennett was on there announcing that no one has taken him and his 60 30 10 Reasons on, I was there to do just that. On the matter of the dogs, I took Bennett on and left him floundering, he suddenly had a busy family weekend to attend to and a wedding, which would take him away from the computer, so I was intent to wait for him to return, after all, I was not a coward that would take him on when he had no right of reply and I am perfectly settled and confident in my own mind that I can take him and his spurious reasons on, no matter how many he may invent.

Strange thing is that he had already announced that he would not be around much because he would be busy with the Lee Balkwell case (although no one really knows what he is going to do, as Essex police have agreed to an external review of the case and what part Bennett would play in that is suspect to say the least) So after this Bennett came back?! Then he was away to his "busy weekend" but was back within 15 hours. By then of course he had cooked up this little story with Ironside, in order to get me banned from a forum, where I was openly challenging Bennett and his "Reasons" for which he had no answers.

However Mr Bennett, you do not get away with this so easily, because every time you talk about those reasons, we are going to expose you, for what you really are.

I hope that Lee Balkwell's father does not get to heavily mixed up with Bennett either, for his own sake, he seemed a very reasonable man on the TV yesterday and my heart went out to him and I hope that he gets the full inquiry he wants, he and his son deserve no less. But I sincerely hope that Mr Balkwell, does not think that Bennett and his trouble making and attention seeking, harassing and stalking ways, can help him, because all Bennett will succeed in doing is to ostracise the police and upset everyone who maybe can help - Tony Bennett in my opinion is bad news, he is like a vulcher circling and picking over the bones, to see what is left for him - a thoroughly nasty vile creature and Mr Balkwell, does not need Bennett, I truly hope that someone of worth presents themselves to Mr Balkwell and I hope he realises that this someone is definitely not Tony Bennett, who has a history of steeping everything he touches deep into controversy, a cursory check on the internet will confirm this.


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Post by Catkins on Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:08 pm

computer Rosie as soon as I saw you were on MM I knew your days were numbered (I'm not a member in there).
Firstly as we learned on the Demo Forum.....Bennett can't handle the truth.......There was no way he was going to let you show him up for the contemptible little slug that he is.
Amber is a nasty warped individual who takes no criticism...in her deluded mind she is Queen............Hopefully Bennett will bring down that nest of sewer dwellers.....he doesn't exactly have the Midas Touch does he...........Well done for trying....
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