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How Much More Proof Do The Numpties Need To realise That Kate & Gerry McCann Are Totally Innocent?

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How Much More Proof Do The Numpties Need To realise That Kate & Gerry McCann Are Totally Innocent?

Post by Rosie on Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:33 pm

SERVICE INFORMATION

Process: 201/07.0 GALGS
Date: 2007.09.14

To: Criminal Investigation Coordinator, Lic. Gonçalo Amaral
From: Ricardo Paiva, Inspector

Subject: Laboratorial exams – Forensics Report

During the course of the ongoing investigation within the abovementioned inquiry, which investigates the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, the Forensics Laboratory of Birmingham, in England, has carried out DNA profile analyses on samples that were collected by this Police force.

The partial results of said forensics analyses have been communicated to this police throughout the course of the investigation by Detective Superintendent Stuart Prior, a liaison officer for the Leicestershire Police, through emails from that laboratory and a partial Forensics Report that is dated August 7, 2007.

Nevertheless, it was verified that due to a lapse from that laboratory, the cited Forensics Report contained inconsistencies with what had previously been reported by a forensics expert in the emails that were received by Superintendent Stuart Prior, this being the reason why the English authorities suggested that we await the laboratory’s Final Report, which will be delivered to this Police Force when the lab forensics analyses, which are still being carried out, are concluded.

Therefore, I send you the cited Forensics Report in English language, with the corresponding translation, for whichever purpose you may find convenient.

The Inspector,

(Ricardo Paiva)




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Post by Rosie on Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:57 pm

I see they are now getting themselves all worked up over the wording in the above letter!
If they stopped to put their brains in gear they would realise that this is all it is, 'just wording'.

The findings in all the DNA samples are a matter of record, even if an email is lost, that is a lapse and not a catastrophe as the actual findings have not been lost and those findings clearly indicate that Kate and Gerry McCann, are totally innocent.
There is not one scrap of proof, not one single test that even merely indicates that Madeleine was harmed in apartment 5a, let alone her parents somehow being involved.

It is abundantly clear what has happened here and who does it involve, yet again?

Why no other than convicted criminal perjurer and liar and concealer of evidence (all the things he is now alleging that happened here in this case too) yes Goncalo Amaral himself.

Here he is yet again embroiled in what would be a serious case of corruption on behalf of John Lowe and the Birmingham FSS. (Perhaps Mr Lowe and his staff will be very interested in hearing what Goncalo Amaral and his band of groupie cult hero worshippers are saying about his and his staff's integrity!)

Of course what probably happened is an email was probably sent to Goncalo Amaral.
Goncalo Amaral obviously does not understand DNA and the finer points of DNA, where one tiny point means a huge amount, he certainly has no concept of LCN DNA.
He probably totally misread what was being said and jumped to conclusions and had the McCanns made suspects.

He was advised to wait for the official report, but he decided to preempt it on what he thought this email had said and he went to the prosecutor and persuaded him to allow him to make the McCanns formal suspects (arguidos).
Apparently, he was actually warned not to do this by John Lowe, but he did so anyway.

When the full report came through and it did NOT say what he thought it said, or what he had hoped it would say, the email was conveniently lost. (In my opinion)

Laughably and against all odds, reason and logical thought process, Amaral's cult groupies hang on for dear life to the convicted liar's coat tails, no matter though, he is going down, so hopefully he will take that load of buffoons with him.

Amaral has already been convicted of lying and concealing evidence and received an 18 month prison sentence for it, so what makes the cult groupies, believe his nonsense now?

A lapse is not a mistake, a lapse in this case is someone giving the benefit of the doubt that an email was not sent. It is NOT an admission of error in the actual biological findings of the DNA tests themselves, which of course can be verified!

Good heavens are those people that hang on to Amaral really that deluded, that they are now making themselves look as big an unbelievable fool as the man himself?

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Post by Jayelles on Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:49 pm

This is the first time I've seen this. So basically, there is only one definitive trace of madeleine's DNA and it was found on a tile in the apartment along with other foreign DNA taken on the same swab? Not only that, but the source of this solitary DNA sample could not be identified as being blood or saliva or skin cell - just that it was Madeleine's DNA?

Not only that, but there was no evidence of her DNA in the car? Or behind the sofa and that the dog alert areas could not be identified as blood let alone Madeleine's blood?

Wow!

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Post by Rosie on Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:39 pm

Yes WOW exactly. Which fundamentally not only destroys the claims of Goncalo Amaral and that sap Bennett, it catastrophically obliterates them!

See you in court Amaral! Apparently the McCanns are going after a six figure sum from Amaral's coffers, that would be true irony, Karma and poetic justice all rolled into one. The biggest donor to the Madeleine fund turning out to be no other than Goncalo Amaral and all those idiots that bought his book. Laffin

Jayelles did you see that the appeal has been lodged to free Leonor Cipriano from jail? I have translated part of it, it is under the Cipriano thread, this makes some absolutely explosive reading (and I have not got all the way through translation yet!)

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Post by Guest on Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:16 pm

I keep getting told how Grimes says the Dogs findings were confirmed by FSS in a way that he said it as if 100% MAdeleine.

But:
Here is what grimes said to the PJ in the files which you should read very carefully:

My professional opinion as regards to the EVRD's alert indications is that it is
suggestive that this is 'cadaver scent' contaminant. This does not however
suggest a motive or suspect as cross contamination could be as a result of a
number of given scenarios and in any event no evidential or intelligence
reliability can be made from these alerts unless they can be confirmed with
corroborating evidence.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

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Post by Guest on Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:28 pm

Mis understanding's
1/ Remember early on the boards were full of 15 out of 19 markers is good enough to confirm? It was actually 15 out of 37 that matched a profile of Madeleine made up from DNA off a pillow in Rothley.

2/ Sniffing Cadaver = Death scent = death? Wrong!! The results were not sufficient enough to determine death of any individual. Therefore it MUST be considered what else could give the scent of death? We all produce cadaverine in our urine and other waste fluids. Dried blood from a living person will also smell of death.

3/ The Dogs were right? Yes they were in the sense they found blood and what they were trained to find, but what they find must be interprated by forensics who concluded that no crime, no confirmation of death or even a 100% match to Madeleine was in the tiny ammount of DNA they found.

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Post by dianeh on Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:17 am

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It is clear that there are a few posters in a couple of other places that try to twist the results to prove that the Madeleine was dead in the apartment.

These people are either being deliberately misleading or are just plain imbeciles.

Quite simply if proof of Madeleine's death in the apartment existed, then the PJ, the FSS, Grimes etc would say so. To suggest that the reports have been tampered with, or that someone (PJ, Grimes, who the hell knows) is withholding evidence or misinterpreting results is just part of the continued hate campaign against the McCanns. It is laughable that half wits like those posters think that they have found some 'proof', when it is clear that they are unable to interpret the basic summaries of the reports, let alone the finer details.
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Post by vee8 on Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:02 pm

dianeh wrote:Mod

It is clear that there are a few posters in a couple of other places that try to twist the results to prove that the Madeleine was dead in the apartment.

These people are either being deliberately misleading or are just plain imbeciles.

Quite simply if proof of Madeleine's death in the apartment existed, then the PJ, the FSS, Grimes etc would say so. To suggest that the reports have been tampered with, or that someone (PJ, Grimes, who the hell knows) is withholding evidence or misinterpreting results is just part of the continued hate campaign against the McCanns. It is laughable that half wits like those posters think that they have found some 'proof', when it is clear that they are unable to interpret the basic summaries of the reports, let alone the finer details.

I think you'll find that most of the 3a's are still struggling with elementary 'Janet and John' books.
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